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    One question guys. It's more technical one. And mabe don't belong here. Why do all Rally2 drivers shift they gears immediately and don't rev up to the full. Like they immediately had in 4th and 5th gear. Isn't that make car slower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meh View Post
    It really depends on the weather, if there is a layer of fresh snow and you start 1st on the road, you have a hard time matching pace. Sweden is always been for "Friday heroes" for using their good start position.

    Also, it is (maybe even more) problematic for 2nd pass, as lower class cars carry snow to the road which is not Rally1 can driving line and you need to clean it up again.

    And who has having good road position - Rovanperä.
    Rovanperä & Lappi, but only one is in a Toyota…
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dontcut View Post
    Tänak gave a hint that their overall setup for this rally was off, they didn't expect clean tarmac.
    Third starting pos is good in Sweden.
    What? bluuuford made an mistake ?
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    Great rally by Neuville, one of his best but we already know he can be fast, he misses consistency. Let's see in Sweden if he can get another podium.
    Good enough job from Tanak and Evans in my opinion, there was no beating Thierry this weekend, they got the points.
    More Tanak favourable rallies will come and Evans can count on Toyota's better reliability (I doubt without that hybrid problem much would have changed), so the championship is as open as ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by satnav View Post
    Final Sunday standings; don't think they'll change
    TBH I dont see the point of the PS now there are points for your Sunday position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    One question guys. It's more technical one. And mabe don't belong here. Why do all Rally2 drivers shift they gears immediately and don't rev up to the full. Like they immediately had in 4th and 5th gear. Isn't that make car slower?
    Optimal shift point is where the at the same speed you have more HP in the next gear. Some cars have their peek power output at lower RPM than others, also not all cars are geared the same. Say for example at 150 kph you are at 7k RPM in 4th hear and the output is 300hp, and at 150kph in 5th youre at 5.8k and the output is 310hp. You want to upshift

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    2023 points system vs 2024
    Seems that Mikkelsen was the only one in Rally1, who lost points, others gained or got the same


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    What is funny, both Gryazin and Lopez score in general classification more points than WRC2 winner Rossel...

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    Also manufacturers: toyota +6, MS +2, Hyundai +0.

    Will be interesting to see in a few more rounds how this develops

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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    One question guys. It's more technical one. And mabe don't belong here. Why do all Rally2 drivers shift they gears immediately and don't rev up to the full. Like they immediately had in 4th and 5th gear. Isn't that make car slower?
    Rally2 cars have smaller turbo restrictor compared to the Rally1 cars. Since both have the same turbo boost the location of the peak power on the RPM scale is largely determined by the restrictor size. Simply said there is a point where more RPM can't bring more power because there is not enough air for that. While the engine power remains close to constant for the rest of the RPM band (again limited by the restrictor), the frictional losses grow exponentially with the RPM, i.e. the power on wheels is decreasing with the RPM. Hence why the extra RPM range in a Rally2 car (up to 7500) is basically used only for the top speed on the top gear.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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