[WRC] Rally Portugal 2023

[Eli]

Vodafone Rally de Portugal Post-Event Press Conference:
https://www.fia.com/news/wrc-vodafon...ess-conference

[doubled1978]

I also diled down my time spent on WRC+ this weekend - as soon as all the mess with tyre lottery started, i lost my interest. I rememmber that during Swe event i was trying to catch every second; but 8 WRC1 cars at the start and dropping out like milk teeth to kids is killing it. Sundays are parrody; immediate actions by FIA would be required.

8 WRC1 cars at the start is laughable.
For me, just make WRC2 the top class, all 3 manufactures in WRC1 have cars, or will have, and then we have Citroen and Skoda as well. Factory teams, private teams, everybody running the same kit. I bet we would have 20+ competitive cars every event. EMI tyres.
Not too many Km’s on Sundays, waste of time. That 20km stage today was a waste of everybody’s time, should have spread those Km’s over the other days.

WRC needs to wake up and smell what it’s stepping in

[drive]

8 WRC1 cars at the start is laughable.
For me, just make WRC2 the top class, all 3 manufactures in WRC1 have cars, or will have, and then we have Citroen and Skoda as well. Factory teams, private teams, everybody running the same kit. I bet we would have 20+ competitive cars every event. EMI tyres.
Not too many Km’s on Sundays, waste of time. That 20km stage today was a waste of everybody’s time, should have spread those Km’s over the other days.

WRC needs to wake up and smell what it’s stepping in

have you seen WRC event in real at any time? as you your talk sounds like TV expert opinion... In REAL world wrc1 car you can not even compare with wrc2 car, last year I've seen 7 wrc events and trust me - after wrc1 cars even best wrc2 drivers looks/sounds so boooooring... you need quantity or quality? pure TV sofa experts....

[Jarek Z]

In REAL world wrc1 car you can not even compare with wrc2 car, last year I've seen 7 wrc events and trust me - after wrc1 cars even best wrc2 drivers looks/sounds so boooooring...

If WRC1 cars are so great, why isn't anbody interested in them? Why are there only 8 in the whole world? Why is the interest in WRC dropping?

[skarderud]

I agree that if you first see wrc1, then wrc2, the last can be less spectacular, but if you see only wrc2's driven in anger , that is quite a spectacle. Its not like grN subarus and evo's...

A Rally2 based championship will get 30-40 cars, and 10 of them challenge for the top spots.
That, and some free to air stuff, is the thing WRC need.

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[mousti]

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[J4MIE]

I agree that if you first see wrc1, then wrc2, the last can be less spectacular, but if you see only wrc2's driven in anger , that is quite a spectacle. Its not like grN subarus and evo's...

A Rally2 based championship will get 30-40 cars, and 10 of them challenge for the top spots.
That, and some free to air stuff, is the thing WRC need.

You forget a couple of things:

1) Free to air tv isn’t interested in showing the WRC.
2) Even if it was just Rally2 cars, the manufacturer teams wouldn’t allow any privateers to beat them.

[doubled1978]

have you seen WRC event in real at any time? as you your talk sounds like TV expert opinion... In REAL world wrc1 car you can not even compare with wrc2 car, last year I've seen 7 wrc events and trust me - after wrc1 cars even best wrc2 drivers looks/sounds so boooooring... you need quantity or quality? pure TV sofa experts....

Sofa expert? WRC2 boring? Wow, you sound about 10 years old….
I’ve been watching rallying live for nearly 50 years mate. Everyone thought when we went from Group B to Group A it would be the end of rallying, and guess what….it was fantastic. If everyone is in WRC2 cars, they won’t seem slow because you won’t be comparing them to anything faster..it’s not complicated.
It’s pointless having amazing cars if there are only 8 of them and half of them don’t finish. What the hell is the point of walking miles into the countryside to watch 4/5 cars driving at top speed as for the power stage today?
That sort of value for money will kill the sport dead.

[J4MIE]

My thoughts on current WRC

I’m not interested in these cars. I can’t explain what it is but they’re just not interesting to watch. The 2017 WRCs I thought were incredible, and I presumed the hybrids would be just those cars but allow them to do all road sections in EV de. They didn’t need the extra boost during a stage as they were fast enough, and the road section green credentials would be fairly impressive. At the moment it’s almost a complete waste of time.

I used to be a massive WRC fan and would go and watch several rounds a year even going to Australia. But I’ve not been since Finland 2017 and wouldn’t have any great enthusiasm to go to another event, maybe one day if I was on holiday in the area, but rallying wouldn’t be the focus of the trip.

I was keen to watch Mexico so signed up for WRC+, then continued for another month to see the Breen stuff in Croatia, but I watched half a stage in Portugal and don’t feel I missed anything.
Safari is slightly different as i compete there, but I’ve been doing that for several years before the WRC went back there, and would probably be visiting anyway.

[mknight]

You forget a couple of things:

1) Free to air tv isn’t interested in showing the WRC.

Just a technical note for those born in the previous millennium:
Nobody needs TV channels as platform for showing or watching free broadcasts.