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28th October 2023, 17:34 #461
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I think the Greece suspension issue is abit driver related also. Other drivers were able to avoid the issue. This is the difference between champions ans non-champions.
Obviously it was an unlucky situation and maybe the Toyota would have survived. Still it wasn't just a pure technical problem.
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28th October 2023, 17:36 #462
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Even the lucky escapes often aren't just a thing of luck. Some drivers simply know better than others where to risk to go off.
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28th October 2023, 19:31 #463
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It would be great to have coverage coming from a third party instead. Someone who is allowed to criticise, that aren't directly employed by WRC. When drivers in an interview say something that might be somewhat controversial, they pretend they didn't hear (cause they can't talk about it). It's all too PR friendly. At least when they have guest commentators, they aren't as drilled in the PR rules for what to say and they deviate a bit.
But also I'd like to have commentators that are not solely focused on guiding new watchers through the coverage. It gets some annoying to hear the same basic explanations for everything 10 times a rally. I'd like more technical talk, more talk about stats, former performances, and of course less oral PR curfew (in lack of better words)
As for the rally, I think this is a good one. I enjoyed watching yesterday, and today I followed all stages through until Evans' accident, and from that time it became Sunday feelings again, but that's not the fault of the rally!
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28th October 2023, 19:41 #464
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Ogier was right before Neuville and he damaged the suspension as well at the same exact point, saying it was impossible to avoid. Of course, he was driving a Toyota, so he survived. And the little bump/ditch in the middle of the road probably got deeper the more cars passed, with Ogier and Neuville being the last two of the Rally1. So the difference between the 8 times world champion and the no times world champion was the car they were driving, no magic driving instict that allowed Ogier to avoid problems.
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28th October 2023, 20:03 #465
Atmosphere in service park especially while "meet the crews" action was incredible, everyone was cheering for Neuville and for all the drivers when they arrived to service
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28th October 2023, 20:15 #466
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So did anyone have to show their tickets stageside? We did four stages yesterday and didn't have to show them once.
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28th October 2023, 20:27 #467
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28th October 2023, 21:18 #468
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28th October 2023, 21:51 #469
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29th October 2023, 01:20 #470
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seb_sh Great analysis. I would just add that on the 'Elfyn Evans' thread we remarked how while he does adapt to conditions well, his crashes, like in this rally, seem to occur when stage conditions are not so tricky or his position is not under actual threat. However, in two of the three occasions I can recall (Monza, Monte-Carlo, here) the mental pressure on him to not make a mistake was high. And I think that may cause his rare 'brain fade' mistakes.
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Wet conditions. Portuguese Autosport brought something to the table... the WRC2 crews are using a WRC spec tyre that is harder than the spec Meeke and other CPR runners are using.
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