[WRC] 91e Rallye Automobile Monte-Carlo (16-22 January 2023)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport & Tanak happy after solving his car issue... https://twitter.com/MSportLtd/status...HMwr8GoB2ga1pw

[Myrvold]

Being last is not something anyone aspires to. What kind of argument is that?

Having fun, and doing what makes you happy should be something everyone should aim for.
If that is using your own money to drive a rally1 car, why the heck not?

The only reason it's a "problem" is due to the lack of seats in the top class. It's not like we didn't have multiple Serderidis' back in the "golden days". The 2000 season is a year with a fair amount of rides. 10 full time cars, loads of part time factory cars. 24 A8 cars at Monte. Almost 1hr40 min after Mäkinen was the slowest A8 - beaten by all classes except N1. Granted, it was an older car, but you could find an Impreza 1998 barely inside the top 40, just like the slowest Group A/WRC car, he was there due to pace, not issues. Same in Sweden, WRC cars in the last half of the results, due to pace.
If you go through any WRC event in 2000, you are (almost) hitting a rally where you have one or more top class car(s) way down the field due to a lack of pace. I can't understand that a driver can, after multiple stages in a top-class car, being behind a Group N1 car (we are talking Renault 4, Rover Mini Cooper etc.), even after a day it was the same. I am sure they had fun doing so though.

There has always, and will always be slow people with money who wants to have fun, why not appreciate that rally is a place where this can be done. There are less and less chances for these things in motorsport sadly. And if said slow people, also financially support other driver(s), what's the issue? Want to get rid of more drivers as well?

Serderidis is a symptom. Removing the symptom doesn't cure the reason for the symptom showing.

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/qsMrbVjN7ZA

[dimviii]

Serderidis is a symptom. Removing the symptom doesn't cure the reason for the symptom showing.

i found the ''symptom''

https://twitter.com/paddocknews/stat...85309351264267

[WRC1]

Having fun, and doing what makes you happy should be something everyone should aim for.
If that is using your own money to drive a rally1 car, why the heck not?

The only reason it's a "problem" is due to the lack of seats in the top class. It's not like we didn't have multiple Serderidis' back in the "golden days". The 2000 season is a year with a fair amount of rides. 10 full time cars, loads of part time factory cars. 24 A8 cars at Monte. Almost 1hr40 min after Mäkinen was the slowest A8 - beaten by all classes except N1. Granted, it was an older car, but you could find an Impreza 1998 barely inside the top 40, just like the slowest Group A/WRC car, he was there due to pace, not issues. Same in Sweden, WRC cars in the last half of the results, due to pace.
If you go through any WRC event in 2000, you are (almost) hitting a rally where you have one or more top class car(s) way down the field due to a lack of pace. I can't understand that a driver can, after multiple stages in a top-class car, being behind a Group N1 car (we are talking Renault 4, Rover Mini Cooper etc.), even after a day it was the same. I am sure they had fun doing so though.

There has always, and will always be slow people with money who wants to have fun, why not appreciate that rally is a place where this can be done. There are less and less chances for these things in motorsport sadly. And if said slow people, also financially support other driver(s), what's the issue? Want to get rid of more drivers as well?

Serderidis is a symptom. Removing the symptom doesn't cure the reason for the symptom showing.

everything you wrote is correct! even in almost every national championship there a rich guys with not sooo much talent in good and very good cars! all good!

BUT why the whole world have to see this in live stream??? they show Serderidis as he is crawling through the stage, not even pushes the gas on long straights and they dont show us Gryazin who flies trough the stages!
And this getting worse, tomorrow he will be almost sure the FIRST car on the road and gets the full audience, he gets more wrc live time than the best in the world and that is not ok....he should get the starting position he deserves, he can have his fun also as last car on the road

[Rallyest]

Kalle and Neuville in the same corner

https://twitter.com/mundorallyes/sta...LzUXx89kaa3dVg

https://twitter.com/rallysolo/status...LzUXx89kaa3dVg

Kalles "moment" seemed much bigger from inside view than from outside.

[denkimi]

everything you wrote is correct! even in almost every national championship there a rich guys with not sooo much talent in good and very good cars! all good!

BUT why the whole world have to see this in live stream??? they show Serderidis as he is crawling through the stage, not even pushes the gas on long straights and they dont show us Gryazin who flies trough the stages!
And this getting worse, tomorrow he will be almost sure the FIRST car on the road and gets the full audience, he gets more wrc live time than the best in the world and that is not ok....he should get the starting position he deserves, he can have his fun also as last car on the road

I agree. He should be put somewhere between the last rc2 cars. If he wants to drive a wrc car he can do it, but nobody else should be bothered by it.

[Zoli]

Kalle and Neuville in the same corner

https://twitter.com/mundorallyes/sta...LzUXx89kaa3dVg

https://twitter.com/rallysolo/status...LzUXx89kaa3dVg

According to multiple sources on Twitter and French TV also reported that Italians brought the water onto the road from the puddle next to it, that created the ice in that corner.

[EstWRC]

According to multiple sources on Twitter and French TV also reported that Italians brought the water onto the road from the puddle next to it, that created the ice in that corner.

Not sure. How come Tänak had it in the notes then. Martin says “black” before the corner to Tänak

[cali]

Oh I see we have someone moderating this forum, good!