Page 1 of 4 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 32
  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2000
    Posts
    412
    Like
    6
    Liked 31 Times in 20 Posts

    F1 Champion Without Race Victory?

    Has the title ever been won by someone who does not win a single race?

    An unlikely secnario I know but if the other Big 3 continue to mop up the wins and Lewis carries on packing in the podium finishes, then it is a possibility is it?

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Posts
    18,921
    Like
    0
    Liked 8 Times in 6 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by greencroft
    Has the title ever been won by someone who does not win a single race?

    An unlikely secnario I know but if the other Big 3 continue to mop up the wins and Lewis carries on packing in the podium finishes, then it is a possibility is it?

    There have been occasions where the WDC winner has only won 1 race.

    I do know that Stirling Moss won more than 1 race in seasons that he didn't win the championship. But I think there are few who would begrudge him the accolade of being one of the finest racing drivers in history.
    When in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    6,476
    Like
    21
    Liked 20 Times in 20 Posts
    Nahh, Hawthorn only won one race in '58 and Keke Rosberg in '82 and were both world champions. Raikkonen came close in 03 as well with only one win. It is a possibility, but I very much doubt it.

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    845
    Like
    0
    Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
    If it's going to happen, its more likely to happen now than at any other time, due to the new point system rewarding consistency rather than being the best.

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    255
    Like
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    with current point system its possible more then before

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Estonia
    Posts
    6,744
    Like
    145
    Liked 209 Times in 165 Posts
    I guess that sooner or later Lewis will also score his race wins.

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Here
    Posts
    25,044
    Like
    0
    Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
    Equally, they'll almost certainly be a race soon where Lewis screws up.
    Useful F1 Twitter thingy: http://goo.gl/6PO1u

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Posts
    18,921
    Like
    0
    Liked 8 Times in 6 Posts
    With the large number of races these days, I find it difficult to believe that a driver capable of scoring enough oints to win the championship in around 20 or so races isn't lucky enough to win a single race.
    When in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Posts
    629
    Like
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by raphael123
    If it's going to happen, its more likely to happen now than at any other time, due to the new point system rewarding consistency rather than being the best.

    "The Best" is a slippery concept and, in this case, it is highly dependent upon the relative value of victories vs. consistent podium finishes.

    Assume that each race had a different winner and one driver was second in all 17 races. He would have beaten each of those winners 16 times while losing to them only once. He would clearly have amassed the greatest point total and by that measure would be the best driver.

    Conversely, assume that only victories counted. It would then be possible for a driver to win 2 races and DNF 15 by crashing while another won a single race and finished on the podium in all 17 races. The two-race-winner would, by the scoring criteria, be the better.

    And what of pole positions and fastest laps? Should they count towards the WDC? It seems reasonable to me that they should, but not enough to allow the second place finisher to outscore the victor of the race.


    I agree that the current point system undervalues wins and should be changed. The trick is to find a scoring system that most people will accept as "fair".

    Periapt

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Posts
    1,140
    Like
    0
    Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    little bit offtopic: Is Maurice Hamilton father of Lewis or family related? because i notice that he gives commentary for the BBC. Little bit odd if he is, providing commentary on his own son, not very objective.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •