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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Whether any of the other drivers than Latvala and Meeke could fight for driver title is highly doubtful given latest results. But given this years results both Evans and Mikkelsen would be better for manu title. They both have more points than either Toyota driver with 3 less rallies driven and they both have more or as many podiums.
    I totally agree. In my opinion Evans is the most obvious challenger to the current top 3 drivers and Mikkelsen has been underrated for so long. Mikkelsen is still sitting at the #4 position in the driver's championship and he hasn't even done every rally unlike many who are behind him. He has delivered Hyundai a lot of team points, which allow their current comfortable lead in the constructor's championship. And yet he keeps getting flack, perhaps more than any other driver. Toyota with Tänak/Mikkelsen or Tänak/Evans would be a devilish combo, but one can dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggg377 View Post
    I totally agree. In my opinion Evans is the most obvious challenger to the current top 3 drivers and Mikkelsen has been underrated for so long. Mikkelsen is still sitting at the #4 position in the driver's championship and he hasn't even done every rally unlike many who are behind him. He has delivered Hyundai a lot of team points, which allow their current comfortable lead in the constructor's championship. And yet he keeps getting flack, perhaps more than any other driver. Toyota with Tänak/Mikkelsen or Tänak/Evans would be a devilish combo, but one can dream.
    Evans is very good but rather inconsistent, and while at times he's pulled out incredible performances he's not been able to maintain them for too long. Best of the rest for me, no doubt, is Sordo this year, then maybe Evans and even then I'd consider it a toss up between Loeb and Mikkelsen. The rest are horribly inconsistent.


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    Yes and no. When asked about getting Tanak as teammate earlier during the weekend Neuville said he would prefer it cause he has "always been faster than his teammates" no matter who they were.
    And not only that, but bar Sordo who's been exceptionally quick this year all of Neuville's teammates have, at one point or another, struggled with setup for the i20. If Tanak does indeed go to Hyundai there's no guarantee he'll do as well as he's doing now in a car made specifically for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve.mandzij View Post
    Evans is very good but rather inconsistent, and while at times he's pulled out incredible performances he's not been able to maintain them for too long. Best of the rest for me, no doubt, is Sordo this year, then maybe Evans and even then I'd consider it a toss up between Loeb and Mikkelsen. The rest are horribly inconsistent.




    And not only that, but bar Sordo who's been exceptionally quick this year all of Neuville's teammates have, at one point or another, struggled with setup for the i20. If Tanak does indeed go to Hyundai there's no guarantee he'll do as well as he's doing now in a car made specifically for him.
    As long as they let him setup and work with the car I do not see a problem. Same story applied to Toyota and he was fast right out of box beating his teammates. I do not see this as a problem, rather than then the atmosphere in the team with Neuville could be poisonous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cali View Post
    As long as they let him setup and work with the car I do not see a problem. Same story applied to Toyota and he was fast right out of box beating his teammates. I do not see this as a problem, rather than then the atmosphere in the team with Neuville could be poisonous.
    Hopefully, Adamo’s touring car racing backgroung will help him managing 2 top drivers under the same roof.

    Anyway, I’m still puzzled about Tanak’s move to Hyundai: he’s the undisputed nr 1 driver in Toyota; the Yaris is the best car (despite a few reliability issues); the team has been ahead of the competition developing it and is based in Finland/Estonia; Toyota could pay whatever Tanak wants; why on hearth is he living?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Hopefully, Adamo’s touring car racing backgroung will help him managing 2 top drivers under the same roof.

    Anyway, I’m still puzzled about Tanak’s move to Hyundai: he’s the undisputed nr 1 driver in Toyota; the Yaris is the best car (despite a few reliability issues); the team has been ahead of the competition developing it and is based in Finland/Estonia; Toyota could pay whatever Tanak wants; why on hearth is he living?
    It puzzles me too but what I've heard Tommi's really hard to work with (not that Tänak and Märtin isn't) and they sort of have mutual respect with Adamo. As a team boss Tommi has been described as softy. But this is all hearsay coming not from the direct sources. Never knows, we will see in a couple of days.

    Personally I like Adamo wayy more than Tommi. This guy is pure balls out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cali View Post
    It puzzles me too but what I've heard Tommi's really hard to work with (not that Tänak and Märtin isn't) and they sort of have mutual respect with Adamo. As a team boss Tommi has been described as softy. Never knows, we will see in a couple of days.

    Personally I like Adamo wayy more than Tommi. This guy is pure balls out...
    Well from the outside it's not possible to know how it "actually" is inside the team. But from outside view I also don't see any good reason for Tanak either.

    For Adamo it's the best move he could do atm by all means. If Tanak wins in Hyundai it's good for Adamo, if it removes one of two Neuville's biggest opponents it's also great.
    For manu title it's only Tanak's points that were keeping Toyota in fight for manu champ. Tanak scored 40 manu points more than Neuville this year, yet Toyota is 18 behind, so other Hyundai drivers got 58 more points than other Toyota drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Hopefully, Adamo’s touring car racing backgroung will help him managing 2 top drivers under the same roof.

    Anyway, I’m still puzzled about Tanak’s move to Hyundai: he’s the undisputed nr 1 driver in Toyota; the Yaris is the best car (despite a few reliability issues); the team has been ahead of the competition developing it and is based in Finland/Estonia; Toyota could pay whatever Tanak wants; why on hearth is he living?
    Hyundai pay more.

    It's not that complicated.

    Press release out in the next few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyfiend View Post
    Hyundai pay more.

    It's not that complicated.

    Press release out in the next few days.
    i cant believe that Makinen will lost Tanak for 1-2 millions more,when this request would be easily solved from their budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyfiend View Post
    Hyundai pay more.
    It's not that complicated.
    Hard to believe it's just about money; Toyota is paying millions to Alonso, mainly for PR purposes. A bad relation with Makinen, like cali explained, make more sense.

    Btw, before Loeb's era having 2 top drivers in the same team was the rule in the WRC; it can work fine, as long there's a strong team manager.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Hard to believe it's just about money;.
    just thinking loudly....
    because also for me is hard to believe thats is about money,maybe Tanak asked to run the yaris r5 program for customers with MM sport and Tommi denied?
    Maybe Adamo willing to give MM sport this r5 multi million programm to MM sport?

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