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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    I have driven over some awful roads at speed over many years and never once got a wheel or tyre damaged.
    With stiff WRC suspension, at 150 km/h?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    With stiff WRC suspension, at 150 km/h?
    Cant give the speed here, but on Apex or Eibach suspension and 18" alloys with 225/40 or 215/35 ultra low-profile tyres.

    Hitting potholes and sunken grids are a regular occurance and the jolts and sound can be horrendous. But never had any damage or punctures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Cant give the speed here, but on Apex or Eibach suspension and 18" alloys with 225/40 or 215/35 ultra low-profile tyres.

    Hitting potholes and sunken grids are a regular occurance and the jolts and sound can be horrendous. But never had any damage or punctures.
    Years a go I broke a rim over a hole in the road even with 205/55 R16 at 80 km/h...

    Anyway it's incomparable because the forces affecting the tyre at the moment of impact (especially lateral ones) are of completely different magnitude and the suspension keeping the wheel in contact with the surface is of a different world.
    Last edited by Mirek; 1st April 2019 at 11:22.
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    Is a rally tarmac tyre construction much different to a road car tyre of the same size and profile ? The sidewalls I guess are very stiff ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Is a rally tarmac tyre construction much different to a road car tyre of the same size and profile ? The sidewalls I guess are very stiff ?
    totally different,much stiffer sidewalls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Is a rally tarmac tyre construction much different to a road car tyre of the same size and profile ? The sidewalls I guess are very stiff ?
    Tarmac tires are like made from stone compared to normal tires. I've seen tire machines braking when trying to put it on a rim. So cant really compare with normal tires.

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    You can't just compare your road car experiences to WRC machines. Not even hobbyist rally car experiences are comparable. The speeds and forces are just on another level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Pity with Meeke, Latvala & Tanak all changing wheels due to punctures we couidnt get to see the way the wheels were damaged...

    And Evans puncture was so strange damaging the tyre just going over a bit of rough road. I have driven over some awful roads at speed over many years and never once got a wheel or tyre damaged.
    Eddie, have you even sat in a WRC car passenger seat and felt the sheer forces one of these things puts out in every direction?
    There’s literally no comparison to a road car.
    And didn’t Evans say it was a stone anyway?

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