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    Quote Originally Posted by go mads View Post
    Whilst never looking like winning an event on pace, if your happy to have guys drive for points then Evans,mikkelsen,paddon,ostberg etc are the way to go, if you want someone to challenge the big 3 on pace then meeke needs a seat.
    What are you blabbering about? The only one out of these drivers was Evans who seriously contended for a victory but he was brutally robbed by a puncture and early trouble in Wales kept him out of podium. Meeke was not even close to win an event in 2019 let alone was he consistent enough. Like Märtin said the best Hyundai drivers were those 2 other guys driving a Toyota.


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    Quote Originally Posted by go mads View Post
    Whilst never looking like winning an event on pace, if your happy to have guys drive for points then Evans,mikkelsen,paddon,ostberg etc are the way to go, if you want someone to challenge the big 3 on pace then meeke needs a seat.

    tell me where did he do that this season?

    if he tries he crashes. (best example for this is finland this year, crashed even two times)
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    Quote Originally Posted by cali View Post
    What are you blabbering about? The only one out of these drivers was Evans who seriously contended for a victory but he was brutally robbed by a puncture and early trouble in Wales kept him out of podium. Meeke was not even close to win an event in 2019 let alone was he consistent enough. Like Märtin said the best Hyundai drivers were those 2 other guys driving a Toyota.


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    Close?
    Portugal?
    Finland?
    Germany?
    GB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    tell me where did he do that this season?

    if he tries he crashes. (best example for this is finland this year, crashed even two times)
    Ogier crashed 3 times in one rally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrc2017 View Post
    Close?
    Portugal?
    Finland?
    Germany?
    GB?
    Really, have you followed WRC this season at all? Do I need to answer or are you just playing dumb with me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrc2017 View Post
    Close?
    Portugal?
    Finland?
    Germany?
    GB?
    Not interested in silly arguments over drivers, I like them all, but fact remains meeke brings speed and entertainment to the championship and I for one would miss him if he got left out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by go mads View Post
    Not interested in silly arguments over drivers, I like them all, but fact remains meeke brings speed and entertainment to the championship and I for one would miss him if he got left out.
    Definitely I agree and I have always liked him and supported as well. It would be pity if he is not around anymore but If I was a team boss he would not be my pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cali View Post
    Definitely I agree and I have always liked him and supported as well. It would be pity if he is not around anymore but If I was a team boss he would not be my pick.
    i have always been a fan of the those drivers who have natural raw speed, like Meeke, Latvala, Tänak etc.

    But for me, Meeke has had enough chances. This year was his year to prove that he has changed but unfortunately its the same.

    Like i said if he pushes then he makes mistakes, if he doesnt push and drives with his head then his pace is around 4-6th.

    im not against the idea that he drives next year, but like you say, if you were a team boss you wouldnt pick him and i think the bosses in wrc think the same atm.
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    https://www.goodwood.com/grr/race/mo...ivers-of-2019/

    Im sure this will cause a debate here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    https://www.goodwood.com/grr/race/mo...ivers-of-2019/

    Im sure this will cause a debate here.
    First 6 are ok, even in the given order.
    After that it's like he went crazy..

    Rovanpera is not a WRC driver and even if you would count him he (barely) delivered an obligatory title in a category with close to no cars. Being slower that a few other drivers surprisingly often.

    4th driver in the WRC with highest (shared) number of podiums not on the list while all the 4 drivers that drove 3 extra rallies and still delivered worse results both in total and single rallies are there.

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