Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 36
  1. #21
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    To the right of the left
    Posts
    3,640
    Like
    3
    Liked 95 Times in 77 Posts
    Interesting some of the comments about how useless Kimi is. Somehow that useless driver keeps snagging podiums though. Good for the constructors points and good for keeping points away from other drivers too.
    "Old roats am jake mit goats."
    -- Smokey Stover

  2. Likes: Mia 01 (9th July 2018),RS (9th July 2018)
  3. #22
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    1,444
    Like
    56
    Liked 130 Times in 103 Posts
    This was a fine race. Hamilton was obviously disappointed after the race, but besides Raikkonen I hope he is also blaming himself or the car for the poor start. At the end of race, he recovered remarkably well and minimized his loss to Vettel.

  4. #23
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    2,223
    Like
    51
    Liked 268 Times in 201 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by gm99 View Post
    If the gap had been only 20 seconds before Vettel's stop, wouldn't Lewis have been ahead of him until his own stop on lap 25, given that you lose a minimum of 25 seconds in the pits at Silverstone?
    You lose approx 19 seconds at Silverstone. Feel free to go back and look at it again. I took my figures directly from the TV coverage.

  5. #24
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    2,223
    Like
    51
    Liked 268 Times in 201 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Starter View Post
    Interesting some of the comments about how useless Kimi is. Somehow that useless driver keeps snagging podiums though. Good for the constructors points and good for keeping points away from other drivers too.
    Keeps snagging podiums in a car his teammate keeps winning in. Keeps making mistakes in qualifying when it comes to the crunch. I cant understand why Ferrari have kept him this long.

  6. #25
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    To the right of the left
    Posts
    3,640
    Like
    3
    Liked 95 Times in 77 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Knight View Post
    Keeps snagging podiums in a car his teammate keeps winning in. Keeps making mistakes in qualifying when it comes to the crunch. I can’t understand why Ferrari have kept him this long.
    Because there is not a better driver available at the moment?
    "Old roats am jake mit goats."
    -- Smokey Stover

  7. #26
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    2,223
    Like
    51
    Liked 268 Times in 201 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Starter View Post
    Because there is not a better driver available at the moment?
    Leclerc is available to them now. I'd be pretty confident he would do as equally a good job as Kimi at first and, after a year, be really pushing Sebastien.

  8. #27
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    To the right of the left
    Posts
    3,640
    Like
    3
    Liked 95 Times in 77 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Knight View Post
    Leclerc is available to them now. I'd be pretty confident he would do as equally a good job as Kimi at first and, after a year, be really pushing Sebastien.
    That would be assuming Ferrari would chose to pay out Kimi's contract with half a season remaining. Those little details, like enforceable contracts, are problems those who don't write the checks can ignore. And that would be on top of what Ferrari would have to pay to buy LeClerc's contract. The off season is a much better time to make any changes the team may wish.
    "Old roats am jake mit goats."
    -- Smokey Stover

  9. #28
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    Greenwich, London UK
    Posts
    1,040
    Like
    0
    Liked 200 Times in 163 Posts
    Blog Entries
    2
    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Knight View Post
    Considering Lewis pace throughout the race Id say theres a good chance Lewis woild have been able to overtake Vettel. This is the second time in 3 races a Ferrari has ruined a Mercedes race. First lap incidents or not, if it continues then Ferrari should be given harsher penalties, even starting the next race from the back. You cant keep ruining your opponents race and not have any consequences.
    We were deprived of a proper duel at the front by the collision. But the possibility of it depended on Hamilton in 3rd position getting past Bottas in similar car to get at Vettel. Though Hamilton appear to have a better pace than Bottas during the race, getting by would have been difficult without team orders. The Ferrari appears faster, but l think Hamilton had the pace to get something out of Vettels gammy neck and right front tyre issues if he were to get pass Bottas from 3rd. All of this are speculation of course.

    The truth is, the Mercedes is falling behind the Ferrari. The small margin of advantages that Ferrari has, may just be enough to clinch both titles, if Ferrari keep their operational efficiency and track performance up. Mercedes always seem to find something in the 2nd half of each season, hence l expect they may bounce back. But if they don't do so in the next two races, it could slip away from them.
    Better a witty fool than a foolish wit.
    William Shakespeare

  10. Likes: Mia 01 (13th July 2018)
  11. #29
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    2,223
    Like
    51
    Liked 268 Times in 201 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Starter View Post
    That would be assuming Ferrari would chose to pay out Kimi's contract with half a season remaining. Those little details, like enforceable contracts, are problems those who don't write the checks can ignore. And that would be on top of what Ferrari would have to pay to buy LeClerc's contract. The off season is a much better time to make any changes the team may wish.
    They are not going to replace him mid-season. That would be banana’s. Hopefully they’ll do it at the end of the year. Mind you, it’s been clear from F2 that Leclerc is a special talent so I would have taken the risk on him at the start of the year if I were Ferrari.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrodaze View Post
    We were deprived of a proper duel at the front by the collision. But the possibility of it depended on Hamilton in 3rd position getting past Bottas in similar car to get at Vettel. Though Hamilton appear to have a better pace than Bottas during the race, getting by would have been difficult without team orders. The Ferrari appears faster, but l think Hamilton had the pace to get something out of Vettels gammy neck and right front tyre issues if he were to get pass Bottas from 3rd. All of this are speculation of course.

    The truth is, the Mercedes is falling behind the Ferrari. The small margin of advantages that Ferrari has, may just be enough to clinch both titles, if Ferrari keep their operational efficiency and track performance up. Mercedes always seem to find something in the 2nd half of each season, hence l expect they may bounce back. But if they don't do so in the next two races, it could slip away from them.
    More worryingly to me about Mercedes is that France was the first big upgrade they brought to the car, meanwhile Ferrari are bringing modifications to every race. Mercedes to up their game in this area, big time.

  12. #30
    Senior Member truefan72's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Philadelphia
    Posts
    5,136
    Like
    617
    Liked 192 Times in 143 Posts
    I was less bothered with the kimi incident and more annoyed with the driving of Bottas.
    Here is what I took from the race. Bottas is clearly the worst amongst the top 6.
    All too often when mercedes need him the most to to keep the ferrari honest or challenge for the win he simply lets them drive away and offers nothing in terms of challenging the car.Being content in coming home second does nothing for me, when you clearly have the car to stick with vettel and provide some sort of challenge.
    Yes people talk about him being unlucky etc. But apart from Baku, he has not impressed me with his racecraft or the ability to challenge the car ahead.
    silverstone was a race where Mercedes needed him to step up and couldn't.
    If verstappen, ricciardo, hulkenberg, alonso or leclerc where in that 2nd car there is no way they would have allowed vettel to drive off into the distance like that.
    That factor along with the shambolic race day strategy by Mercedes has been their undoing.
    Vettel took a well deserved victory, Hamilton did all he could after his spin, Kimi showed some real bite in the race.
    It was entertaining, albeit a bit frustrating. so far 2018 has produced a lot of good races and drama.
    you can't argue with results

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •