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10th May 2007, 09:35 #21
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Originally Posted by pinoMichael Schumacher The Best Ever F1 Driver
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10th May 2007, 10:40 #22
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Toyota seems to be one of the most underrated teams. For example there has been talks about about Red Bull's, Honda's, Williams's, BMW's, whoever's, rise and on the contrary, you are ignoring Toyota? You are talking about everyone that they can do better and are on a rise. And the only one you are downplaying is Toyota. Most of you thought before the start of the season that they even won't finish even in Constructors Top6, but what is the reality? Strong 5th position with good chances of attacking fourth. Yeah sure, they have their structural problems, which prevent them to rise to the top, BUT I'm also convinced that people make to look Toyota worse than they actually are.
I tend to second to pino (we are the only Toyota supporters on this forum, so no surprise that others are trying to make anti-Toyota propaganda and wish to see them dropping backwards as it looks as though as Toyota has been consistently moving forward. I'm not expecting a podium, but I'm looking forward to see them as fourth best at Barcelona behind Ferraris, McLarens and BMWs - therefore finishing 7th and 8th. But unlike you I'm also trying not to underestimate rivals and expect Renault, Red Bull and maybe even Williams giving a good fight for them for those last point positions.
But... where I'm expecting a podium, is of course Monaco, Trulli's favourite circuit. With a couple of retirements only five damn laps separated him from podium last year. Who knows, maybe this will happen again?
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10th May 2007, 11:45 #23Originally Posted by jensWhen you're tired of rallying...you're tired of life
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10th May 2007, 11:51 #24
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10th May 2007, 13:06 #25
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Originally Posted by jens
All I have seen over the past few seasons is a full manufaturer-based team, with by far the largest workforce and by far the largest budget, with the most high-tech facilities of any team consistanly performing midfield or worse.
They had one of the best designers of his generation and because he didn't pull magic out of the hat within the first year, they sacked him. They have had more managers/chief engineers in their short history than I've had jobs, and I've had a lot of jobs.
If it wasn't for the sheer bloody-mindedness and desire to beat Honda then Toyota would have pulled the plug a long time ago and I doubt whether we will see them fund the F1 project for much longer either.:ninja: silent and deadly :ninja:
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10th May 2007, 16:05 #26
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By "moving forward" I meant their progress during this season.
In Australia they had no chance against Renault and also Williams slightly managed to beat them.
In Malaysia they gap between them and Williams didn't get smaller, but at the same time they were already only a couple of seconds behind Renault.
In Bahrain Toyota already managed to beat Renault and Williams. So so far Toyota has developed forward faster than for example those two teams. Also in Australia Toyota was lapped, but wasn't lapped at Sepang and Sakhir.
Anything else ununderstandable?
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10th May 2007, 16:37 #27
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Originally Posted by jens
I hope Jarno, or Ralph for that matter, prove me wrong, and they both finish on the podium and maybe even start winning races, it would be good for the sport to have another title contender. But until they do many people, myself included, will see Toyota F1 as under-achievers.:ninja: silent and deadly :ninja:
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10th May 2007, 17:48 #28
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Originally Posted by CarlMetro
First leg he will be thinking in Portuguese championship. Then he can go for WRC2.
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