Sébastien Ogier:Clever move Vs Unfair

[moto99]

When Loeb ran like a coward from Ogier in 2013, he left a bunch of butthurt fans who now try to discredit Ogier whenever they can.

[A FONDO]

When Loeb ran like a coward from Ogier in 2013, he left a bunch of butthurt fans who now try to discredit Ogier whenever they can.

Memories from Monte 2015 are still alive.

[dimviii]

When Loeb ran like a coward from Ogier in 2013, he left a bunch of butthurt fans who now try to discredit Ogier whenever they can.

coward and world champion lol

[ESTR]

coward and world champion lol

Haha real cowards are VW.

[tbtstt]

Smart move I'd say. And even if people do think this is underhand, it's daft to point the finger directly at Ogier. Do you really think he'd pull a trick like this without the approval of the team?

Four more points that he probably wouldn't have picked up without the late check in and a bit of damage limitation to what was otherwise a miserable weekend thanks to the running order. Some people don't seem to like it, but it's the mark of a smart driver backed by a smart team. And smart drivers win Championships...

[mknight]

It obviously isn't 'entirely within the rules' if he is penalised 4 minutes for it.

It shows that the penalty isn't enough relative to powerstage points to prevent people breaking the rules though.

That's actually a perfectly correct view.

Yes it's against the rules, just that the penalty doesn't outweight the benefits. This comes from the penalty being designed for "normal" points per position, while the powerstage points turn this around.

Therefore FIA will quite likely change the penalties specifically to hurt on powerstage. Ex. later/early timecontrols on Sunday will give you powestage time penalties.

Gilsoul has a bit different view
But above all it is not normal that we pass a historic rally between the two passages of the WRC. They use other trajectories and this increases the difficulty for those who open. I understand they are doing this for a cost issue, but at this level of the world, with points and a title at stake, this should not be allowed. "

Just about all WRC rallies have either historic or "local" rally doing the stages before, or 80+ cars in the field that change the roads between the passes. It makes a difference on quite many events.

The specific situation here is the wider/narrower tracks and narrower tires allowed for historic in Sweden. Gilsouls solution of "banning" organizers from having longer entry list (= more money from drivers and more spectators) is way over the top crazy. And if they do this for Sweden only Swedesh organizers will complain that others can do this.

[René]

When Loeb ran like a coward from Ogier in 2013, he left a bunch of butthurt fans who now try to discredit Ogier whenever they can.

Ogier doesn't need anyone to be discredited, he's self-sufficient.

[spiderem]

well, lets talk again at the end of the season. maybe those 4 points will keep the championship undecided until the final round, which in my opinion will be great as it hasn't happen for many years now... i know ogier is a very arrogant and annoying person to watch, but you can't blame him for being honest and showing his frustration as a true competitor he is.

and to add, mikkelsen smiling and saying "we are fighting like tom and jerry", i'm sorry sunshine but it's not with this kind of fighting spirit that you will become world champion. No offense.

[René]

Beyond the indisputable fact that Ogier is a great driver. From the beginning, He has destroyed his image with a despicable attitude of incessantly pushing cynicism with sarcastic remarks. Stunning!
As for the rules, they have been respected but unfortunately used for purposes other than sports in spirit.

[Co-driven]

As far as I understand, Ogier din't break any rules.

But the fact that he hide behind a house, leaving the main road, doesn't mean that he left the itinerary of the rally?

(I am just asking a question here, I am not trying to imply that he should have been penalised for that).