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    Quote Originally Posted by GravelBen View Post
    Yes he did, and he was penalised for that - but the penalty was less than the advantage from breaking the rules.

    I'm not sure why people keep saying he wasn't breaking any rules, if he was following the rules there would have been no penalty.
    And he consciously accept the rules to turn them in his favor. Its a matter of perception is he braking rule and what rules he is braking. Yes, the rules allow crew to start later with the given time penalty, yes the rules imply the crew will receive penalty for it. It is all accepted by all, the penalty and the result. That's it, and that's all. Is it sportsmanship, why not? For who is it unfair? Aren't all of them under the same rules? Is it fair to face unfair competition rules as it is with the road condition? How's that sportsmanship? Please.....EDI

    EDIT: Should we open another thread for organizers breaking the "sportsmanship" rules, or it is all about about we all hate Ogier thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by racerx1979 View Post
    Well he paid the price for breaking the rules then.. fair is fair. He gained something out of it while taking a penalty too. That's what the rules allowed him to do.

    What I was trying to say in my previous post (poorly) is that we will see if what he did will be of any benefit. It all depends on his performance in Mexico.
    Yes, I agree with that. The question to ask is probably whether the rules should allow that to happen.

    I don't think we wil know until the end of the season though really - if he wins the championship by 4 points or less he will certainly think it was worthwhile.

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    Is it fair for Neuville to let Ogier to be the first cars in Mexic for the first day? Neuville can obtain 30s penalty for late check in CO and let Ogier to be first

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmin_sb View Post
    Is it fair for Neuville to let Ogier to be the first cars in Mexic for the first day? Neuville can obtain 30s penalty for late check in CO and let Ogier to be first
    It's Neuville's choice. If he thinks he'll lose more than 30 seconds driving first, let him do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    It's Neuville's choice. If he thinks he'll lose more than 30 seconds driving first, let him do it.
    But when Ogier sees this he can also decide to wait and not start before him. He will always have 20 seconds less penalty

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    Yeah, it's not like all of a sudden most drivers became as good as Ogier and can win rallies. The road conditions though are all the same.

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