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    Wow 18 pages of nonsense. Keep it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watson View Post
    I happen to know a guy it happened and how the whole thing went down. Hell, even if you do a burnout you can get trouble. But don't take it from me. Next time you see a copcar, pull a slide - under the speedlimit of course - and see what happens for yourself.
    I don't think I've ever seen an NZ cop out in the snow! Even if they were, if you said it was an accidental slide due to the snow they'd have a tough time proving in court that you did it deliberately. ... "I'm sorry your honour, it was slipperier than I realised. After the car slid a little bit I went home even more slowly and carefully than I already was"

    I got pulled over for a chat after a cheeky slide around a wet roundabout one night a few years ago... after a (clean) breath test they told me that right in front of the police station wasn't a very clever place to do that, and I should find somewhere more suitable next time. Small town cops are generally more practical and less bureacratic about things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GravelBen View Post
    I don't think I've ever seen an NZ cop out in the snow! Even if they were, if you said it was an accidental slide due to the snow they'd have a tough time proving in court that you did it deliberately. ... "I'm sorry your honour, it was slipperier than I realised. After the car slid a little bit I went home even more slowly and carefully than I already was"

    I got pulled over for a chat after a cheeky slide around a wet roundabout one night a few years ago... after a (clean) breath test they told me that right in front of the police station wasn't a very clever place to do that, and I should find somewhere more suitable next time. Small town cops are generally more practical and less bureacratic about things.
    Well fair enough if the cop sees that you were not doing it in a dangerous spot and lets you... ahem, slide. That is just good will on the cops behalf and you can't rely on it.

    Still you can't get mad if they don't. As with the cheeky 'it was slippier than I expected' excuse... well yes that will probably bail you out. However, if they have you on camera and there is rear wheel blocking due to handbreak use or heavy acceleration into a corner involved they pretty much have you by the balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watson View Post
    However, if they have you on camera and there is rear wheel blocking due to handbreak use or heavy acceleration into a corner involved they pretty much have you by the balls.
    Yeah I agree with you in that regard, I think there is a big difference (both in appearance and in safety) between a small controlled slide exiting a slow corner and a big dramatic drift with a committed entry/handbrake etc.

    In my younger days I was a bit looser but my approach to sideways fun on publics roads now is that there is a time and a place... if there are people around (cops or public) then its probably not a suitable time and place.

    To get it back on the original topic - personally I didn't see too much issue with Tanak's little slide on the snow at low speed, though he did look pretty close to the other car at the end. I understand the point about make the sport look irresponsible in the public eye but the people there were clearly encouraging him, not disconnected members of the general public. In that sense its not really any different to other examples given like winners donuts in a carpark with marshalls standing nearby... though I don't know if they're allowed to do that anymore either?

    Other cases where drivers are genuinely dangerous in trying to make up time on road sections etc... I definitely agree with the sentiment that appropriate punishments should be given for that.

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    [QUOTE=BigWorm;1170626]Some quite terrifying reactions on here. Ott is not driving correctly here and he shouldn't be doing it.

    Terrifying...lol. You F1 ladyboys really need to wind your necks in and man the f*ck up, or stick to the roundy roundy stuff.

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    If the Gendarmerie saw Ott doing that they would have applauded, given him a police escort and asked for his autograph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T16 View Post
    I do think you have created a little bit of a beast and you’ve probably put yourself in pole position to ask the question to the FIA. In my eyes, you need to follow this through properly.
    I have today brought this case to various offices in FIA and offices which are affiliated with FIA, both sporting as well as mobility divisions concerned with road traffic safety. Whether they want to set an example or not is a different case, but the ball is firmly rolling at least, like it should be. My bottom line still remains, I am a great fan of rallying and I don't want to see drivers disrespecting the sport.

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    Christ

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    And lol at the chumps confusing health and safety with polical correctness. Something like my granny would have done ffs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiK7 View Post
    I have today brought this case to various offices in FIA and offices which are affiliated with FIA, both sporting as well as mobility divisions concerned with road traffic safety. Whether they want to set an example or not is a different case, but the ball is firmly rolling at least, like it should be. My bottom line still remains, I am a great fan of rallying and I don't want to see drivers disrespecting the sport.
    I´m sorry for you. Not even a real fan are you.
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