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    Quote Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
    Retirement after winning the '82 title? I can't see it myself. The title was not the reason Gilles went racing, and winning it wouldn't have stopped his simple love of racing.
    I agree. Like you say Gilles was a racer and given the chance I'm sure he would have continued. One of the articles talks about the repeated offers from Ron Dennis to Gilles to drive for McLaren in '83. Fascinating to think about if he would have gone and, if so, what he might have achieved. Sadly, however, purely hypothetical.

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    1981 French Grand Prix
    Qualifying at Dijon:


    During practice at Dijon in 1981, Gilles crashed
    at the Courbe de Pouas, an undulating, flat-in-
    fourth right hander, with no run-off worth
    mentioning. During the lunch break I found him
    dabbing a cut on his jaw: "Bloody catch pole
    cracked my helmet and broke the visor ..."

    "You overdid it ?" I asked. "Just ran out of
    road?" "No, no," he grinned. "I ran out of lock!
    "The car is really bad through there - an
    adventure every time. Go and have a look this
    afternoon and you'll
    see what I mean." I did. I watched the Cosworth-
    engined Williams and Brabhams droning through on
    their rails, and waited.

    At its clipping point, at the top of a rise, the
    Ferrari was already sideways, its driver winding
    on opposite lock. As it came past me, plunging
    downhill now, the tail stayed out of line, further
    and further, and still Gilles had his foot hard
    down. As he reached the bottom of the dip, I knew
    the position was hopeless, for now it was
    virtually broadside, full lock on,
    Villeneuve's head pointing up the road, out of the
    side of the cockpit.

    Somehow, though, the Ferrari did not spin, finally
    snapping back into line as it grazed the catch
    fencing, then rocketing away up the hill. For more
    than a hundred yards, I swear it, the car was
    sideways at 130 mph. "That's genius," said David
    Hobbs, watching with me. "Are you seriously
    telling me he's won two Grand Prix in that?"

    Nigel Roebuck's wonderful Grand Prix Greats
    (1986)

    "To Gilles, racing truly was a sport, which
    is why he would never chop you. Something
    like that he'd look on with contempt. You
    didn't have to be a good driver to do that,
    let alone a great one. Anyone could do that.
    Gilles was the hardest ******* I ever raced
    against, but completely fair. If you'd
    beaten him to a corner, he accepted it and
    gave you room. Then he'd be right back at
    you at the next one! Sure, he took
    unbelievable risks - but only with himself -
    and that's why I get pissed off now when
    people compare Senna with him. Gilles was
    a giant of a driver, yes, but he was also a
    great man."

    - Keke Rosberg


    "I love motor racing. To me it's a sport,
    not a technical exercise.
    My ideal Formula
    One car would be something like a McLaren M23
    with a big normally aspirated engine, 800 hp,
    21 inch rear tyres. A lot of people say we
    should have narrower tires, but I don't agree
    because you need big tyres to slow you down
    when you spin. And you need a lot of
    horsepower to unstick big tyres, to make the
    cars slide. That would be a bloody fantastic
    spectacle, I can tell you. We would take
    corners one gear lower than we do now, and get
    the cars sideways. You know, people still
    rave about Ronnie Peterson in a Lotus 72, and
    I understand that. I agree with them.
    That's the kind of entertainment I want to
    give the crowds. Smoke the tyres ! Yeah !

    I [care about the fans], because I used to
    be one of them ! I believe the crowd is
    really losing out at the moment, and that's
    bad."


    “I never think I can hurt myself-not seriously. If you believe it can happen to you, how can you do this job? If you’re never over eight-tenths, or what ever, because you’re thinking about a shunt, your not going as quick as you can. And if your not doing that, you’re not a racing driver. Some guys in Formula One…well, to me, they’re not racing drivers. They drive racing cars, that’s all. They’re doing half a job. And in that case, I wonder why they do it all.”

    - Gilles Villeneuve

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
    Retirement after winning the '82 title? I can't see it myself. The title was not the reason Gilles went racing, and winning it wouldn't have stopped his simple love of racing.
    Indeed. windsor at it again. unbelievable guy.

    Gilles was a great driver. Great and sad loss to Racing. It takes a special kind of person to win only 6 races and yet be more remembered and loved than drivers with far more wins and titles.
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    It would have been magnificent to see battles between Villeneuve and Senna. I suppose Gilles would have continued also in the second half of the 80s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jens
    ... I suppose Gilles would have continued also in the second half of the 80s.
    I reckon so as well. I mean why not ? He was only 32 then. And with his desire for the sport, I could see him easily doing like Andretti:

    Staying in GP till his late 30's/early 40's (more like), then perhaps to CART later on, or assist his son's efforts in the sport. Whatever his endeavors would have translated to after GP, I feel almost certain he would have been related to racing somehow.



    Interesing note about that fateful year 1982. Qualifying tires:
    Gilles being regarded as (at the very least) one of the fastest drivers at that time, was the most outspoken about those dodgey 1-2 lap qualifying tires. Stating in one article I can recall from an On Track Mag, that he felt compelled to engage in "banzai" manuevers while performing his qualifying attempts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baker
    I agree. Like you say Gilles was a racer and given the chance I'm sure he would have continued. One of the articles talks about the repeated offers from Ron Dennis to Gilles to drive for McLaren in '83. Fascinating to think about if he would have gone and, if so, what he might have achieved. Sadly, however, purely hypothetical.

    It's intriguing to speculate how Gilles would have fared in the Ron Dennis environment at McLaren. There was also speculation just before Zolder that a new team would be built around Gilles, with a major sponsorship from a tobacco company.

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    Windsor raises an interesting point - although I don't agree with it...I think Gilles was tiring of all the excessive politics in the 80's and it would not have not any better as it progressed towards the 90's. Although I think he would have loved the turbo, non ground effect era.

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