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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    I just want to say that Ogier was best driver in Mexico.
    Some others were also very good but Ogier was best this time.
    Yep, but the real bombshell of this Mexico Rally was Loeb top form. I wasn’t able to follow the rally but after seeing the highlights and look at SS’s times it’s hard not to beg for a full time return of the big champ. It’d be great for Citroen and the WRC!

    Btw, it was funny to hear Ogier saying, I believe after leg 1, that he was only worried with Meeke; does anyone doubt his main goal was to pass Loeb and get an undisputed win in order to show he’s the new king? It’ll be nice to follow the second round…maybe the old king will rule again!
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    To me, Ogier was taking a lot more risks in Mexico. I think Loeb had Ogier a little pumped up.

    To be honest, it should not even be an issue considering Loebs time away from WRC and his age, but I guess he is that good. Would be nice to see Loeb be ahead of Ogier in Corsica or Spain. I'm not sure if Loeb would have held off Ogier in Mexico, but based on his interviews he said he was not pushing at all. Just driving..

    Like Tanak said, "it's like we have not improved at all while he was away" lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL14 View Post
    ... I fear you just made some bad choice with italian women ....
    Surely you're not suggesting that NOT has actually had an encounter with a real woman?
    Never do anything you wouldn't want to explain to a paramedic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sollitt View Post
    Surely you're not suggesting that NOT has actually had an encounter with a real woman?
    Define 'real'....lol
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    It was very interesting rally. What Loeb made was hugely impressive considering his age and absence from world rallying. However, I have to disagree with some comments claiming that Loeb had rally winning pace. It was near to rally winning pace from his starting position. With all things equal Loeb wouldn't have stand chance against Ogier. In Mexico the difference being 2nd or 10th on the road is over 1 minute on day one. During the second day we could talk about 20-30 seconds difference from road position between Ogier and Loeb. When road position deficit is accounted it's evident that Ogier was about 1 minute faster than Loeb at the point when Loeb's tyre gave up.

    It's evident that Loeb's appearance made Ogier to put everything on the line.

    There is actually interview in wrc.com where Ogier notes that his chances were really low going for rally as he was second on the road and drivers last in the order had 1 second per kilometer advantage.

    It's curious that some forumers have been sailing in the forum 15 years but they cannot infer contributions what road positions have.

    Next rally in Corsica will be one to watch.

    During his career Loeb was absolute killer on asphalt and Citroen is probably one step ahead of others on tarmac (based on last year's performances by Mikkelsen and Meeke). I would say that Loeb will be contender for rally win in his remaining rallies (especially in Spain if they start on gravel and road position is in play).
    Last edited by Valtter; 14th March 2018 at 21:53.

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    We`ll never know that, but i wouldn`t be so sure he didn`t have anything extra. Started the day with a win, was 4. a 5. (ok, admitted that he would`ve liked to be faster) and then had a flat with not much point to push anymore, just secure points.

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    Well it's no secret Loeb has always been biggest Ogier challenger. And looks like he'll always be. Perhaps the opposite is also true.
    Last edited by stefanvv; 14th March 2018 at 22:14.
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