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    Quote Originally Posted by steve.mandzij View Post
    If Ogier were to retire with a mechanical failure I'm sure you'd reconsider your rally2 stance. Also where is your anger at the advantage the Frenchman gained in Sweden?

    I disagree that rally2 runners shouldn't be eligible for points because like it was mentioned a little higher up there'd be no point in continuing if it weren't for extra points. Also, it's not like a runner who's not in rally2 will finish below a returning driver in the overall; the only thing that could benefit rally2 most of the time is the PS.
    Ogier did the full rally in Sweden, Tanak did not in Mexico.

    Ogier was chronically disadvantaged by road clearing and Historics in Sweden. Tanak' s car broke in Mexico.

    If Ogier was under Rally2 I would still think the same about the PS.

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    You are being ridiculous. Just face it, it`s allowed and M-sport started it, took it even further after the PS with Evans. Tänak did cleaning aswell and was as also disappointed at the time (stage end comment) but now that teams think it is ok and in the end they all want to win and this is what makes competition great. If someone would give up sooner rather than later, we would be having another dull period. It`s something for the FIA to think about, not for fans to look through suitable colored glasses, be it M-Sport/Ogier, Hyundai/Neuville or Toyota/Tänak.
    Last edited by Tarmop; 13th March 2018 at 12:36.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmop View Post
    You are being ridiculous. Just face it, it`s allowed and M-sport started it, took it even further after the PS with Evans. Tänak did cleaning aswell and was as also disappointed at the time (stage end comment) but now that teams think it is ok and in the end they all want to win and this is what makes competition great. If someone would give up sooner rather than later, we would be having another dull period. It`s something for the FIA to think about, not for fans to look through suitable colored glasses, be it M-Sport/Ogier, Hyundai/Neuville or Toyota/Tänak.
    Yes too much detailes discussed. Getting ridicolous eventually. It´s like it is. And up to FIA to change if they like to.
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    where is AnttiK when you need him

    Last edited by dimviii; 13th March 2018 at 16:25.

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    I just want to say that Ogier was best driver in Mexico.
    Some others were also very good but Ogier was best this time.
    "quattro best 4wd rallycar ever"

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    dont remember to have discuss this one.At French forum they said that he had only 6km to stage end,but havent checked it.


    Sébastien Loeb admits he made a mistake in stopping to change a puncture when on course for a storybook victory at last weekend’s Rally Guanajuato Mexico.

    The 44-year-old Frenchman, driving his first WRC event for more than three years, was leading Dani Sordo when he hit a stone in Saturday afternoon’s second pass of the 30.97km Guanajuatito speed test.
    The impact punctured the front left tyre on Loeb’s Citroën C3. He and co-driver Daniel Elena replaced the wheel and dropped almost 2min 30sec, plunging to fifth.
    Sordo also punctured in the same stage but drove to the finish. He conceded just 30sec and went on to finish second.
    Loeb acknowledged his lack of recent WRC competition meant he underestimated the strength of Michelin’s current tyres.
    Asked if he made an error in stopping, he told wrc.com: “Yes. As old as I am, I take some experience. It was a bit stupid, but I think we didn’t speak enough before about that and I took a bad decision.
    “Now we have an alarm (in the car) for punctures. I saw the alarm and like in Dakar, alarm, puncture, we stop, we change. But it was a bad decision, I could have lost much less.”

    http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/march...2--12-12-.html
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    Dimvii, you've got wrong Antti.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    dont remember to have discuss this one.At French forum they said that he had only 6km to stage end,but havent checked it.


    Sébastien Loeb admits he made a mistake in stopping to change a puncture when on course for a storybook victory at last weekend’s Rally Guanajuato Mexico.

    The 44-year-old Frenchman, driving his first WRC event for more than three years, was leading Dani Sordo when he hit a stone in Saturday afternoon’s second pass of the 30.97km Guanajuatito speed test.
    The impact punctured the front left tyre on Loeb’s Citroën C3. He and co-driver Daniel Elena replaced the wheel and dropped almost 2min 30sec, plunging to fifth.
    Sordo also punctured in the same stage but drove to the finish. He conceded just 30sec and went on to finish second.
    Loeb acknowledged his lack of recent WRC competition meant he underestimated the strength of Michelin’s current tyres.
    Asked if he made an error in stopping, he told wrc.com: “Yes. As old as I am, I take some experience. It was a bit stupid, but I think we didn’t speak enough before about that and I took a bad decision.
    “Now we have an alarm (in the car) for punctures. I saw the alarm and like in Dakar, alarm, puncture, we stop, we change. But it was a bad decision, I could have lost much less.”

    http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/march...2--12-12-.html
    Another elena mistake....
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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    Another elena mistake....
    its not only Elenas mistake,Seb has his share too.

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