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    Can’t we just get rid of the stupid power stage anyway.
    Purists.... does it really make you more excited about rallying?
    I think it’s a load of shit..... got NASCAR written all over it.

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    OK all you geniuses... if not a Power Stage how else can they prevent the Sunday from generally being a cruise snooze and the cars that retired not even running ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Totally different. A car failure happens, but the rules of a rally are a decision. And Tanak's driving could also have caused his engine problem...

    The FIA are going to stop it now:
    https://www.motorsport-news.co.uk/ne...erstage-rules/y
    ROFL!!!!

    Unbelievable....

    I still haven’t understood if you are joking or not
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    No, but seriously... you cant use a car failure as an excuse to bend the rules.

    If someone drives perfectly and does every stage and its for no reward, then they have bit more leeway IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    No, but seriously... you cant use a car failure as an excuse to bend the rules.
    You don't bend the rules. You either break them or not. Simple as that. Just stop crying.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    You don't bend the rules. You either break them or not. Simple as that. Just stop crying.
    Which brings us back to square one.

    Ogier in Sweden, Tanak and Neuville in Mexico all broke rules... and got penalized.

    Just the penalties did not hurt them at all (in case of Tanak and Neuville) or they could calculate the benefits against each other (Ogier, before Evans got sacrificed)).
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    So can we stop discussing the facts and instead focus on the issues on the table.

    Penalty rules were never modified for powerstage introduction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    No, but seriously... you cant use a car failure as an excuse to bend the rules.

    If someone drives perfectly and does every stage and its for no reward, then they have bit more leeway IMO.
    I bet you would have said the opposite if it happened when Ogier was driving a VW and Tanak a Ford.

    Lets be honest, Ogier did it essentially because he didn't like the weather. The rules have been the same every round, sometimes an advantage for him and sometimes a disadvantage. The variable was the weather conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    No, but seriously... you cant use a car failure as an excuse to bend the rules.

    If someone drives perfectly and does every stage and its for no reward, then they have bit more leeway IMO.
    You can't use a lack of pace for that either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    You don't bend the rules. You either break them or not. Simple as that.
    Ogier & MSport didnt break the rules they used the rules to partly overcome a huge disadvantage.

    Tanak & Neuville and their teams just copied even though they had no excuse or disadvantage.

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    You have a weird definition of what a fair and unfair disadvantage might be. Doesn't Ogier have an advantage too, of being a fast driver? Maybe it should be allowed for others to sabotage his car. After all, he's put them at a disadvantage.

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