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    Quote Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan View Post
    You will be very pleased to read FIA's explanation that it is indeed for safety reasons

    This will take place with immediate effect for safety reasons. ...
    https://www.fia.com/news/wrc-decisio...out-powerstage
    I hope that this isn't the wording they used in the actual regulation. "In the given order" seems subject to abuse as if one driver does it out of order, he will have an influence on the order of others therefore potentially denying others of PS points. For example, assume that the "given order" was drivers A, B, C, D, E. If driver B goes late and fits in between D & E, then the new order is A, C, D, B, E. Of the 5 drivers here, none of them have the same driver in front and behind them as they did in the original order. Sure the FIA will have worked this out but you never know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by greencroft View Post
    I hope that this isn't the wording they used in the actual regulation. "In the given order" seems subject to abuse as if one driver does it out of order, he will have an influence on the order of others therefore potentially denying others of PS points. For example, assume that the "given order" was drivers A, B, C, D, E. If driver B goes late and fits in between D & E, then the new order is A, C, D, B, E. Of the 5 drivers here, none of them have the same driver in front and behind them as they did in the original order. Sure the FIA will have worked this out but you never know!
    seems like the order is clear enough
    13.3 contains various clauses related to Power Stage

    "13.3.3 Details of the running of the stage must be included in the Supplementary regulations.
    The start order for the Power Stage for all crews which will be covered by Live-TV will be communicated by the Clerk of the Course in the regroup preceding the Power Stage"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartusvuori View Post
    What makes this change so wrong? All drivers should have had a chance to be late on purpose for PS during the season?
    Just that 3 drivers have gained championship points from exploiting the weakness of that rule, changing the rule (even a change to what it probably should have been all along) essentially gives them an unfair advantage because other drivers now won't have the opportunity to gain points in the same way.

    From the FIA perspective that is obviously the lesser of two evils when compared with letting drivers/teams carry on with those antics for the rest of the season though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greencroft View Post
    I hope that this isn't the wording they used in the actual regulation. "In the given order" seems subject to abuse as if one driver does it out of order, he will have an influence on the order of others therefore potentially denying others of PS points. For example, assume that the "given order" was drivers A, B, C, D, E. If driver B goes late and fits in between D & E, then the new order is A, C, D, B, E. Of the 5 drivers here, none of them have the same driver in front and behind them as they did in the original order. Sure the FIA will have worked this out but you never know!
    This new formulation in regulations is stupid. I dont understand why they do it like amateurs... It should be very simple - any penalty in TC before power stage or at the start means no points from Power Stage. Easy way...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GravelBen View Post
    Just that 3 drivers have gained championship points from exploiting the weakness of that rule, changing the rule (even a change to what it probably should have been all along) essentially gives them an unfair advantage because other drivers now won't have the opportunity to gain points in the same way.
    Apparently there aren't too many running to the barricades shouting for the cheaters to be stripped of all points and banned for the rest of the season for unsportsmanlike behaviour.

    No matter how, at least now the mess is sort of sorted.
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    Whatever happened about M-Sport's appeal of the PS time penalty in Mexico ?

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    Some good news coming from Østberg this or next week
    https://parcferme.no/rally/varsler-p...rt-down-under/
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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    Some good news coming from Østberg this or next week
    https://parcferme.no/rally/varsler-p...rt-down-under/
    is he retiring ?

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