[WRC] News & Rumours 2018

**denkimi** · 4th March 2018, 00:17

Originally Posted by Mirek

That still didn't make him faster than Loeb.

so you are claiming citroen never asked ogier to slow down to let loeb win because loeb was always faster?

sometimes i think people have actually forgotten why ogier preferred to drive a season in a s2000 car instead of driving a wrc next to loeb.

**N.O.T** · 4th March 2018, 01:12

Originally Posted by denkimi

sometimes i think people have actually forgotten why ogier preferred to drive a season in a s2000 car instead of driving a wrc next to loeb.

because he had a contract with VW...

why bother with something that hurts so much ??

**ESTR** · 4th March 2018, 07:27

Originally Posted by N.O.T

because he had a contract with VW...

Yes true and he develop polo for that reason. Look where he were next for years for that.

**denkimi** · 4th March 2018, 11:22

Originally Posted by N.O.T

because he had a contract with VW...

you are such a genious. why are you even on this forum instead of solving world hunger?

**Fast Eddie WRC** · 4th March 2018, 11:40

People do forget there were some close seasons when Loeb won the title. Also remember the fact that Ford M-Sport won two Manu titles beating Citroen.

**focus206** · 4th March 2018, 11:56

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

People do forget there were some close seasons when Loeb won the title. Also remember the fact that Ford M-Sport won two Manu titles beating Citroen.

People who? I don't see anyone forgetting that. Anyone with a minimal knowledge of recent WRC seasons knows that.

**Mirek** · 4th March 2018, 13:52

Originally Posted by denkimi

so you are claiming citroen never asked ogier to slow down to let loeb win because loeb was always faster?

You have a comprehansion problem. First of all I have never claimed Loeb was always faster. Secondly Ogier being few times faster doesn't mean he was the faster driver of the two in that time. Simple as that.

**N.O.T** · 4th March 2018, 14:34

Originally Posted by denkimi

you are such a genious. why are you even on this forum instead of solving world hunger?

world hunger is the reason we have normal lives.... in nature someone has to suffer in order for someone else to prosper.

**steve.mandzij** · 4th March 2018, 19:18

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

People do forget there were some close seasons when Loeb won the title. Also remember the fact that Ford M-Sport won two Manu titles beating Citroen.

Beat them once when they weren't even a proper manufacturer team and then again when they introduced a brand new car. I'd argue the second Manu title was more valuable than the first (against Citroen, not Kronos) but it's disputable, if not a little likely, Ford had the advantage in 06 and 07.

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**Fast Eddie WRC** · 5th March 2018, 16:20

Originally Posted by focus206

People who? I don't see anyone forgetting that. Anyone with a minimal knowledge of recent WRC seasons knows that.

Just an impression I get whenever Loeb is mentioned... like he and Citroen were winning with virtually no contest.

He and they were great, but Gronholm, Latvala and Hirvonen certainly kept them honest. Watching them in action the speed difference wasnt much... they were all world class.