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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    Only that why we should worry, knowing what kind of personality he is? Then we should know he could win in Mexico within only a few weeks, for example. Happend before.
    Lot of things have happened before, like Tänak being dropped by M-Sport, but now is now and the fact is that Latvala was the third fastest Toyota in Sweden. Ofcourse things can be totally different in Mexico, but in order to make that happen, JML must change the trend that's been developing in MC and Sweden.
    ku ois neljä pyörää ku vetäis ni ois vähän eri sekunnit kyllä pätkillä, sen mä takaan

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve.mandzij View Post
    Thoughts on Latvala's mental state? My heart is aching already from his comments throughout Sweden and his lack of speed throughout. He was never bad but never beat Tanak in a fair flat out fight and that began getting to his head, especially since it was in Sweden.

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    Dont think this is news ... maybe debate in the Toyota thread ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ESTR View Post
    Breen (he is only one that can drive C3 properly)
    Sorry, but what a stupid comment.

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    The speed is a worry for Latvala, but if I was him id try and calm down. It's not necessarily the fastest driver who will finish ahead in the championship, so he should try and focus on having the same speed and consitency as he did for most of last season. If that means Tanak (and maybe Lappi) will be faster than him then he has to try and deal with it. Lappi will still have a lot of mistakes as he's still developing, but if Jari let's purely the speed get to him after these two events, he's already f*cked. He needs to calm down.

    Ogier kept his cool last year when the likes of Thierry, Jari and Meeke went faster on events, and more importantly when his own teammate Tanak was faster than him in the same car. Ofcourse everyone wants to be fastest in their team but it shouldn't break you mentally, especially after only two (specialist) events.

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    I see we're all on the same page then. After such a good year last year, where he was quick and consistent too, it's been a surprise (and a source of worry for fans like me) to find he's struggling to match his teammates in speed. To be fair I'm not sure if he's been giving it maximum at all so far, not because he can't, but because he hasn't been battling for positions yet; if his regular pace can't match Tanak or Lappi, though, it might begin to play tricks on his head.

    I suppose he'll do well in Mexico as long as the Yaris doesn't overheat again. Neuville will be knocked down the order on the first day and third on the road is a pretty decent position. Tanak however starts fifth, so he might be quicker and the story might repeat itself.

    Edit: he's listed behind Lappi but tied for points in fourth in the standings, so his starting position might be as good as Tanak's.
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    Latvalla was saying before season that this would be his aproach. Maybe he is just doeing ecactly as he sead he would. Putting consitansy before speed.

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    I really like Latvala but he can be really naive at times. Ogier was slower than Tanak with the same car himself last year in Sweden but he just didn't cry about it and ended up winning the championship. Latvala is also ahead of his teammates in the general ranking. Everything is going fine, he is just finding problems that are not problems.
    He took 3rd in Monte, its second best result ever there. He took a bunch of points in Sweden after two days starting not in the best position to aim much more.
    He should just go to Mexico and take more points and if he is in his day, win the event. But if he goes with anxiety he will take rocks instead of points or will make slower times because of trying to change the setup and driving style continuously.

    Me too I expected Tanak to be slower at beginning but he found soon the feeling with Yaris, that's it. Congratulation to Tanak, now move on.

    P.S. I think what Latvala is suffering the most is not just Tanak being soon faster but the feeling to arrive at the end of the stage and not understand why he was slower than his teammate... Last year he could say himself that the car could have been the reason of others faster than him, now he can't say the same with Tanak.
    Last edited by AL14; 19th February 2018 at 15:26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duvel View Post
    Latvalla was saying before season that this would be his aproach. Maybe he is just doeing ecactly as he sead he would. Putting consitansy before speed.
    He says the same every december since 2009

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL14 View Post
    I really like Latvala but he can be really naive at times. Ogier was slower than Tanak with the same car himself last year in Sweden but he just didn't cry about it and ended up winning the championship. Latvala is also ahead of his teammates in the general ranking. Everything is going fine, he is just finding problems that are not problems.
    He took 3rd in Monte, its second best result ever there. He took a bunch of points in Sweden after two days starting not in the best position to aim much more.
    He should just go to Mexico and take more points and if he is in his day, win the event. But if he goes with anxiety he will take rocks instead of points or will make slower times because of trying to change the setup and driving style continuously.

    Me too I expected Tanak to be slower at beginning but he found soon the feeling with Yaris, that's it. Congratulation to Tanak, now move on.

    P.S. I think what Latvala is suffering the most is not just Tanak being soon faster but the feeling to arrive at the end of the stage and not understand why he was slower than his teammate... Last year he could say himself that the car could have been the reason of others faster than him, now he can't say the same with Tanak.
    So why shouldn´t Tanak be faster than JML? That can´t be a surprise. So many variations is playing roles. And we´re talking about WD championship over a whole year.
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    Sébastien Loeb gives his blessing to Thierry Neuville and Ott Tänak

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    lol, i dont know how right the translation is but the headline is funny...a short interview with Loeb
    #8 Ott Tänak - Martin Järveoja #8
    - World Rally Champions 2019 -

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