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    I think this is an everlasting debate as long as some of us just want the best drivers to be able to win all events if they truly are the best, and some of us want the series to remain even and interesting with more different winners and chances for new drivers.

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    Pure selfish spectator point of view: QS is bollocks, be it WRC or ERC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post
    So a rule that penalize allways the same is good?
    he is not penalised always.At plenty of rallies has an advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Have to penalise the slow not the fast, or what is the motivation to improve ?
    With actual system and without qualify, sometimes is penalised slow, sometimes is penalised fast. With qualify, always is penalised slow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Sweden was exceptionally bad for the first cars on the road - more snow fell, one stage wasnt totally ploughed and then the Historics ruined the second runs.
    Yes, I am a broken record.

    Look at Sunday, same issue on run 2 for the first cars. No Historic class there. It wouldn't have mattered if Historics were in the rally or not.

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    There are two questions which everyone should answer in his head before he takes any stance to this topic.

    Do I want a super fair regulations under which the best guy keeps winning all the time untill the point when there is nobody left competing with him and nobody cares anyway?

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    Do I want an intresting competition with many different winners, surprises and stories to talk about even when it means a lot tougher job for the best ot win the title?
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    I think this is an everlasting debate as long as some of us just want the best drivers to be able to win all events if they truly are the best, and some of us want the series to remain even and interesting with more different winners and chances for new drivers.
    perfect summary
    https://twitter.com/KiwiWRCfan adding a fans perspective to Twitter

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    The best driver will still win the championship though (provided they dont have a run of poor car reliability), and at the end of the day that's what matters most. It's a fascinating element our sport has that others don't, and it's a skill to see who can cope with it the best throughout a year too.

    Even on Sweden which was an extreme case, Meeke and Seb didn't deal with running near the front well. Whereas Tanak was superb on Friday morning, and Neuville did an incredible job all rally (demolishing Andreas on his 'home' rally, who had a much better starting position).

    I personally don't think we'd even be having this discussion had it not been for the national rally anyway, which was a rally specific case due to those cars running narrower tyres.

    I also get a sense that some people want changes as it would suit their favourite driver/team now, instead of what's best for the sport overall.

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    I thought QS was quite okay, but so is the leading driver to sweep the road first day. Sometimes it's beneficial, sometimes not. It was total bollocks when Ogier had clean for two days though and that was solely out to get Ogier and noone else (it was actually quite disgusting from the FIA to implement that).

    Even with the system which let's the leading driver to do some road cleaning, the best drivers tend to end up in the battle for the title anyway. Ogier has won titles when being first on the road for a whole season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigWorm View Post
    I thought QS was quite okay,.
    even QS,isnt fair at every rally,pending to conditions.We have seen many times,that some times first cars have an advantage.

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