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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Not in the same way, smartass.

    Name me another rally that has or will disadvantage the first car so badly and for so long ?
    Pull yourself together ffs. Even Ogier will have put it behind him now

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    RallySport Magazine
    45-year old Italian co-driver, Giovanni Bernacchini, has been appointed Sporting Director of Abarth Racing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Not in the same way, smartass.

    Name me another rally that has or will disadvantage the first car so badly and for so long ?
    Using about 2s of thinking.....
    Sardinia and Argentina last year. First car on Friday lost a lot and then went into Saturday as one of first again and lost again on top of that.

    Turning it around for the late starters.
    Late starters in Poland last year lost on Friday morning in mud... and then they had to go first in dry-ish on Saturday and lost again. (Breen as reference here)

    It happens all the time. Not sure why Sweden suddenly is supposed to be all that different.

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    This is such a hullabulloo over nothing. If Seb Ogier didn't want to run first on the road in Sweden he didn't 'have to' go and win in Monte Carlo. It is not as if the second round of the championship being in Sweden where it snows a lot was a surprise. He knows the rules as do the rest of them and as ever will be a long season to come.

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    It was psychological for SebO in Sweden. He thought he was beaten even before the rally started. And he then made it happen that way. All by himself.
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
    Tommi Mäkinen, back in the years...

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    If Ogier (M-Sport) wants to start later on Day 1 he can actually make late check in. He could be 7 minutes late right at the first stage in Sweden and be 4th on the road. I guess this would also be an option for better chance to fight for more points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by er88 View Post
    Pull yourself together ffs. Even Ogier will have put it behind him now
    Like I'm the only one discussing this...

    I dont come on here every day and I have the right to reply to those who have quoted me.
    #M-SPORTER

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Like I'm the only one discussing this...

    I dont come on here every day and I have the right to reply to those who have quoted me.
    If M-Sport had finished in the top 5, how would you have reacted?

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    People are so angry to see a non Sébastien champion that forget how it is unfair since they changed that.

    And people forget how tactics and team orders taked a big tool to Loeb reach those 9 titles.

    So, as Ford fan, i said: even in VW i was against such rule. By your ideas, KKK never won 4, Tommi same. This is not to be fair, this sport, and the pure best need win! Call him Seb, Thierry or Ott...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira View Post
    And people forget how tactics and team orders taked a big tool to Loeb reach those 9 titles.
    Tactics, yes. But team orders? I don't think Loeb ever needed it since he never had a teammate who was faster than him..

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