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    Quote Originally Posted by tommeke_B View Post
    Tactics, yes. But team orders? I don't think Loeb ever needed it since he never had a teammate who was faster than him..
    Umm, Ogier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmop View Post
    Umm, Ogier?
    Right, I almost forgot... So indeed some team orders for one of the 9 titles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommeke_B View Post
    Right, I almost forgot... So indeed some team orders for one of the 9 titles.
    And Sordo backing off on Catalunya 2009 which was quite crucial
    "Die with memories, not with dreams" Scott McIsaac
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommeke_B View Post
    Tactics, yes. But team orders? I don't think Loeb ever needed it since he never had a teammate who was faster than him..
    Loeb was great but he wasn't invincible.
    There were instances where team orders were employed, like this one: https://uk.reuters.com/article/rally...8FS04B20120428

    Also in 2011 Hirvonen narrowly lost out on winning the championship. In Argentina he was only 2.4 seconds behind Loeb at the finish and that one result could have turned the championship to his favor if he had found that time during the rally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmop View Post
    Umm, Ogier?
    Ogier wasn't faster when he was in Citröen. We can say he could challenge Loeb but we can't say he was faster.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Ogier wasn't faster when he was in Citröen. We can say he could challenge Loeb but we can't say he was faster.
    Ogier at least won rallies while driving in the same team as Loeb. Sordo did not.
    What years have the points scores been changed and start positions/ qualifying stage etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    Ogier wasn't faster when he was in Citröen. We can say he could challenge Loeb but we can't say he was faster.
    You could say that but in the end he was ahead of him several times and he was told to let Loeb pass. So there was quite a bit of tactics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmop View Post
    You could say that but in the end he was ahead of him several times and he was told to let Loeb pass. So there was quite a bit of tactics.
    That still didn't make him faster than Loeb.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by OHL View Post
    There were instances where team orders were employed, like this one: https://uk.reuters.com/article/rally...8FS04B20120428
    Uh, I remember this one, he nearly broke his car down 2-3 times before that.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Paddon interviewwith NZ sport radio -Saturday 3/3 Paddon is back in NZ for the autumn
    Paddon discusses Sweden. Bland vanilla interview. Only comment of note id that Paddon hints the car was designed for Neuville's driving style (Mikkelsen' driving style closer to Neuville's than Paddons is too Mikkelsen's)?
    http://www.radiolive.co.nz/home/arti...missed-it.html (Page down to bottom)

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