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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmop View Post
    Corsica: Just 1.3 seconds between Ogier and Sordo in the end, places 2 and 3.
    And Latvala overtook Breen's fourth place on the power stage by a tenth, also winning the power stage. That was an epic power stage moment for me.

    Also in Germany, Evans dropped from 4th to 6th on the final day.

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    I just want to highlight this quote from today's Autosport that really sums up the genius of this idea:

    "We do not exclude shortening the rallies, but I see it in the bigger strategic context with 14, 15 or 16 rallies. If we are talking about [shortening] one or two rallies, it wouldn't make much difference, but if we shorten them all then this can save 15 or 16 [days] - that's more than two weeks in a hotel. Then we are talking."

    Oliver Ciesla, are you seriously trying to suggest that two weeks of room and board for ~50 people is comparable to the cost of traveling to and competing in three additional events around the world? It's not even the same order of magnitude! Are you seriously pretending that this would be a cost saving exercise? It's either unbelievably dishonest or completely economically illiterate. I'm not sure which is worse.

    I don't like this guy. I don't think he actually gets rallying, and I don't think he's a good promoter for the sport.

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    No idea if this is a stage but this is what most roads around Concepcion in Chile looks like if anyone wants to see.
    Like a mix of Australia and Mexico.

    https://www.google.no/maps/@-36.8028...7i13312!8i6656
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    Sundays now are a bit of bore with so little stage km’s. So in that sense, two days would be enough. But the long service breaks are also boring, so a remote service with tyres, fuel and emergency repairs would allow more action per day. So no shorter rallies km wise, but mor packed to two days.
    Make a rule that allows only limited overhaul betweeen two consecutive events and the manufacturers are forced to build more robust cars and Tommi’s problem is also solved...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonnybobiche View Post

    I don't like this guy. I don't think he actually gets rallying, and I don't think he's a good promoter for the sport.
    What are his qualifications for the job? He shouldn't be anywhere near the job. He's stealing a living.
    WRC: On the long way to Recovery............
    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    I must say (and I am telling it many times), that I am disappointed what Red Bull Media did as a promoter in WRC. I was expecting much, much more that they have shown. And of course lot of stupid words and crazy future decisions by their boss, lot of them didnt happened, thanks god...

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    Sadly I've come to expect that prominent figures in the WRC will only ever make suggestions that completely undermine the integrity of the sport, while doing nothing to enhance it, purely to serve their own lazy personal interests. They're so regularly completely at odds with what a fan of rallying would want, it's sad but predictable. Ciesla though, while not being the most outrageous of these, is probably the biggest failure of the prominent figures. He's taking the sport nowhere. The core rally 'product' is great now, yet he and Red Bull Media seem to have no ambition, ability or vision for developing the main thing the WRC needs, more mainstream reach and exposure. Instead they're buggering about trying to further water down the 'events' we have...

    The basic 'world feed' coverage most broadcasters show is quite soulless, the Red Bull TV coverage is better and presents the WRC more like a mainstream sport, but it's on a channel that nobody watches and even many rally fans don't know about. The official You Tube content is largely lacklustre, almost a token gesture. Live stages and onboards are hidden on WRC+, ironically available free most of the time if you're willing to jump through the hoops to get it. Why not make that content freely accessible to all? Make more coverage available live on Facebook, Twitter and You Tube.

    The thing I found most annoying about the 10km stage length idea being pushed is that none of the people in the sport seem to acknowledge that the stage length is completely irrelevant to these important kids with their short attention span's, most don't even have access to compelling coverage of the sport in the first place! When amateur videographers on You Tube get 500k to 1m+ views for their rally footage on You Tube, but the official channel regularly fails to reach 100k with most of their videos, surely Red Bull and Ciesla need to be asking more questions about the way they present the sport.

    Saying that, I think the idea of a WRC round in Chile is fine. There seems to be a good local rally scene there and a fan base to serve. It's definitely a better proposition than Turkey or Croatia...

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    I find it funny how people argue that Sundays got boring. You know why they did? Because Sundays got shortened. Towards the end of an event often times drivers aren't willing to throw points away. Well guess what, when Saturday evening is the end of a rally drivers will go conservative by Saturday afternoon. In a few years people will advocate one and a half day events and after that they moan how boring Saturdays are and that therefore they should be dropped. This is just silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    No idea if this is a stage but this is what most roads around Concepcion in Chile looks like if anyone wants to see.
    Like a mix of Australia and Mexico.

    https://www.google.no/maps/@-36.8028...7i13312!8i6656
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7DbPPgqqvo

    I think this video is from the candidate event last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7DbPPgqqvo

    I think this video is from the candidate event last year.
    Very many different cars, I like !
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