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    While I'm no longer surprised by anything that 'the powers that be' come out in the WRC, how can they have this discussion about encouraging privateers and the main solution be 'we'll reduce the turbo restrictor by 2mm', as if that is the problem...? Sometimes I wonder whether some things get lost in translation through David Evans or whether their discussions really are so odd.

    Malcolm wants to see them in national championships. Me too! How about subsidising the running of three or four of them in a revival of a proper 'Open BRC' Mr Wilson.

    Tommi wants to see them in the ERC! That'd be nice, though, has he been briefed by somebody at WRC Promoter who thinks that there are rather too many R5 cars entered in ERC rallies this year...?

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    Bertelli is the only private driver who has attempted to put a sustained programme together in a current car, tackling Sweden, Mexico and Argentina in a Ford Fiesta last year.
    Really, what about Østberg?

    Very weird indeed. First they ban private entries and now they want them back.

    Difficult to say what I would think. I don't like it when there's drivers at no-man's land, driving their own speed with minutes apart from anyone else. Of course it's spectacular to see a WRC car and good to have more of them, but at the same time I'd just rather have more cars in WRC2 and more exposure for them.

    Also, it would seem weird to have one or two WRC cars on national or ERC level, letting the richest gentleman win. The R5 cars are pretty spectacular as well and while they're affordable compared to WRC cars, still very expensive to run. There's still now a nice amount of them in national championships.

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    FIA, for God's sake please don't bring the new WRC cars on ERC or national level. Everything is just fine with R5. For once don't try to fix what's not broken!
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Yeah that comment from Tommi about the ERC is one of the more nutty things I've heard in the last few years.
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    Toyota's World Rally Championship rivals fear 'embarrassing' Yaris

    https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...ssing-wrc-pace
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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    Toyota's World Rally Championship rivals fear 'embarrassing' Yaris

    https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...ssing-wrc-pace
    Well I have been voicing concerns like that since Monte and some 1-2-3 stage results (and for that matter also last year after some rallies where Hyundai dominated). So let's hope it does not happen.
    Sure for fans of one of the Toyota drivers it will be good but not for the sport in the longer term.


    Last time we had very good competition from multiple manus was 2003-2004, and then Citroen started dominating (arguably not only due to car) and we went down to 2 manufacturers over just a few years.

    This time it seemingly is like this:
    Toyota - going up and putting tons of money in
    M-Sport - keeping 1 car in the top of the comp., very dependent on his performance, no money for other drivers
    Citroen - half-hearted program with uncertain future, using funds to make the car less unpredictable
    Hyundai - big issues with performance on tarmac and in Finland (5 out of 13 rallies !)

    Worst case:
    Citroen drops out , M-sport goes into "cheap drivers and money-making" mode and Hyundai struggles to compete

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    Quote Originally Posted by the sniper View Post
    Sometimes I wonder whether some things get lost in translation through David Evans or whether their discussions really are so odd.
    Maybe the meeting took place after a full lunch…or even at the bar! It’s really hard to believe that Wilson and Makinen can sincerely defend the use of over 700.000€ cars in regional or national series. Most likely it’s just Evans getting confused with so many scoops…
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Maybe the meeting took place after a full lunch…or even at the bar! It’s really hard to believe that Wilson and Makinen can sincerely defend the use of over 700.000€ cars in regional or national series. Most likely it’s just Evans getting confused with so many scoops…
    Why would this surprise you?

    They both want to sell cars / parts / services. That's 100% of the reason for their businesses....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyfiend View Post
    Why would this surprise you?

    They both want to sell cars / parts / services. That's 100% of the reason for their businesses....
    I don’t see Wilson putting at risk R5 sales, essential to his business, by promoting the use of current mega expensive WRC cars in national series; the same applies to Makinen, having in mind is interest of developing a R5 Yaris.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    I don’t see Wilson putting at risk R5 sales, essential to his business, by promoting the use of current mega expensive WRC cars in national series; the same applies to Makinen, having in mind is interest of developing a R5 Yaris.
    Yes, but there are limited number of WRC car suppliers, anyone can make an R5...

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