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    This forum

    First of all I think there are some very knowledgeable people on this forum that often post interesting technical and sporting information that is unavailable on mainstream media outlets, thanks for that. Thanks also to those that post videos, news, articles and photos. For me (just an "amateur" observer) it makes this forum a great place to get to a deeper level of this sport.

    However, lately there has been an increase of posts that are basically personal attacks or name calling and bring nothing to the conversation. I don't mind difference of opinion but I don't like reading posts that belittle and insult people for simply having a different opinion, especially if that opinion comes with some arguments (be they factually valid or "feelings"). It's one thing to say I disagree, it's another to call names at anyone who disagrees with you.

    Now I don't mean this place should be a "safe space" but lately the tone and language does bother me and I think it drowns out more "healthy" discussions and makes following the forum less enjoyable for me personally. I'm curious what other people think, maybe I'm wrong and being too sensitive. Also I wonder what admins/moderators think about what goes and what doesn't in this place.

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    absolutely agree...that Meeke thread is just depressing to read.
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    I very rarely post anymore, but still read the threads. But it has gone downhill compared to years ago. The Meeke thread just highlights some of the utter inane comments on here.
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    I have mostly withdrawn from this board, visiting only occasionally. Partly this is due to declining quality of discussion (I dare not say people doing the discussion as that would be ad hominem). Because my absence I am not qualified to judge the current state of affairs.

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    What i will say, is some people claim to have a knowledge of the sport without any further evidence other than what they read on the internet... as the saying goes 'a little knowledge is a dangerous thing' and therefor it needs to be challanged.

    For example after Monte or Sweden i suggested there was an issue with a particular WRC car.. i was ridculed.

    As the saying goes...

    The truth goes through 3 phases..
    First it is ridculed
    Second is violenty opposed
    Third, it is accepted as being self evident.

    Some people just need some hard love to make them see what they dont want to normally accept, with their limited knowledge.

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    This thread is about members attitude, not who is right or wrong about something. Just sayin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    This thread is about members attitude, not who is right or wrong about something. Just sayin'
    Indeed, and it's nice to get examples of all kinds in the thread as well wouldn't you say.

    And yes, when I joined (not too long ago). I was extremely happy. Finally finding a place where I could read and potentially discuss rally with other fans of the sport and maybe even with people that had some inside knowledge, experience etc.
    But even in my short time here I have noticed the quality falling, and it getting much more personal, and a fight about "who is right" etc. etc. Just like certain areas fo the real life seems to be these days sadly. Opinions seems to be gone, and have been replaced by personal facts.

    EDIT: Added one sentence.

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    so basically a healthy forum is the one where everyone agrees with everyone and everyone involved in the WRC is glorified either beign a champion or a potato dog...

    sorry kids... its not going to happen.

    You can always cry for mommy to give you a hug if you feel offended by different opinions.
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    Lots of rose-colored glasses here. There used to be a moderator from Scandinavia here that sprouted racist insults at French people at every opportunity. But now the Finnish people get ridiculed and there is suddenly a problem? Double standards.

    The discussions weren't all that great back in the day either. For a long time the general consensus on this forum was that Loeb was only quick because he received super-secret special tyres from Michelin. And then we had control tyres and the evil Frenchman Loeb still became the champion.

    The only difference between then and now is the stupid like button. Case-in-point this thread: At the moment there are 7 replies of which 2 came from our notorious trolls. But the OP also has 15 likes. Had all these people actually bothered to post, there would be 23 replies of which only 2 troll-posts.

    Summary: if you want a better forum then instead of only hugging the like button, actually contribute with positive posts! That is the only way to drown out the trolls and insults.

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    Lots of people here have no idea how things work and just make assumptions and name call people like they can do better. It is good to see another side of the coin though.

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