F1 safer than sleeping!

**bontebempo** · 4th May 2007, 14:59

sorry. meant take name out of hat aid.

**wedge** · 4th May 2007, 15:01

Lets just wait for the GP shall we?

Apparently the reduced speed at the last corner will aid overtaking into T1.

F1 circuits have enough hi-speed corners as it is, and not enough overtaking.

**Erki** · 4th May 2007, 15:23

Originally Posted by wedge

F1 circuits have enough hi-speed corners as it is, and not enough overtaking.

I'd still like to see more high speed corners. Heck, I think every turn should be a middle or high speed corner...

**bontebempo** · 4th May 2007, 15:53

most circuits are dull anyway. I love F1 and thats the only reason i didnt switch off during the last 3 races. The spanish GP has always been dull. If you want to know what a procession looks like watch the spanish GP. Roll on Spa, Silverstone, Monaco and the Italian GP. Almost forgot Suzuka!!!

**wedge** · 4th May 2007, 15:58

Originally Posted by Erki

I'd still like to see more high speed corners. Heck, I think every turn should be a middle or high speed corner...

But that's the problem with Barcelona, there's too many hi-speed corners and F1 cars produce too much downforce.

Its traditionally a track that tests how good the car's aero is and lots of boring races.

**Erki** · 4th May 2007, 16:21

Originally Posted by wedge

But that's the problem with Barcelona, there's too many hi-speed corners and F1 cars produce too much downforce.

Hmmm... some other classes can race pretty well on the same circuits, only F1 can't... Whose fault this is, track's or F1 cars'? I would rather butcher the dumbo wings than castrate the track.

**wedge** · 4th May 2007, 16:33

Originally Posted by bontebempo

most circuits are dull anyway. I love F1 and thats the only reason i didnt switch off during the last 3 races. The spanish GP has always been dull. If you want to know what a procession looks like watch the spanish GP. Roll on Spa, Silverstone, Monaco and the Italian GP. Almost forgot Suzuka!!!

Now you've got me started!

I'm losing hope with Silverstone. They hardly touch the brakes until Club corner. It may sound great on paper but it's a joke, IMHO! Who wants to remember last year's race?

Hate to say it but they probably need Tilke to turn Stowe into a large braking zone.

I feel a bit sad for Magny Cours because 10 years ago it would've been a race I looked forward to. But now the cars produce so much downforce and grip that its difficult to pick up a tow on the back straight.

The only exception is Suzuka. It's such a great circuit no matter how dull or entertaining the race is, it never ceases to amaze me. The final chicane probably needs modifying so it can be wide enough on entry to race wheel to wheel and not crash into you opponent.

Sorry, rant over!

**ioan** · 4th May 2007, 16:38

Originally Posted by wedge

The only exception is Suzuka. It's such a great circuit no matter how dull or entertaining the race is, it never ceases to amaze me. The final chicane probably needs modifying so it can be wide enough on entry to race wheel to wheel and not crash into you opponent.

Nah they managed it easier than that, they dropped the track and will go to Fuji!

Isn't Bernie a sweetheart, why change such a good track when it's easier and cheaper to move to another one???

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**wedge** · 4th May 2007, 16:46

Originally Posted by Erki

Hmmm... some other classes can race pretty well on the same circuits, only F1 can't... Whose fault this is, track's or F1 cars'? I would rather butcher the dumbo wings than castrate the track.

It the cars!

F1 cars create too much downforce from the wing which creates the turbulent air - especially with high speed corners.

Downforce increases grip and therefore reduces braking distances

One way to reduce grip and increase braking distances is having a sole tyre supplier who will produce hard-spec tyres and for wide circuit to have long straights with a hairpin or chicane at the end

Another way is to re-write the aero regulations for extremely less downforce than we have now, but I doubt we will see this in the near future.

**inimitablestoo** · 4th May 2007, 19:47

One thing I do like about that chicane, having seen it on an edition of Motorsport Mundial (pre-season testing) was those nice high kerbs on the inside. At least the drivers shouldn't be tempted to short-cut (i.e. cheat) their way through it by essentially "forgetting" it's there. Glad to see from the picture on the ITV website that they haven't lowered them since then, which I was worried about...