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9th May 2007, 02:54 #71
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Originally Posted by Dave BrockmanHINCHTOWN!!
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9th May 2007, 02:56 #72
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Really? how so? You don't see that many flip ups on Le Mans type sports cars which have their wheels and tyres enclosed at the top. And for record breaking cars on the Salt Flats, I don't see any. As I said before, the top of the tyre is moving at twice the velocity of the car. So if the car is moving at, say 150MPH, then the top of the tyres are moving at 300 MPH. Surely, that wide pice of rubber travelling at 300 MPH would have more than minimal effect!
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9th May 2007, 02:59 #73
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Originally Posted by nigelred5
Apples and oranges!!When in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout
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9th May 2007, 14:03 #74
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9th May 2007, 15:06 #75
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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
The suspension wishbones and wheels on an F1 (and single seaters) creates incredible amounts of drag. Sportscars run grounds effect and they can streamline the shape, reduce drag and maximise the efficiency of the rear wing.
BTW, whilst we're on the subject, does anyone know why the Peugeot 908 runs a high front nose cone? I'm assuming it's it make efficient use of the front splitter? Sorry a bit off topic, I never got answer on the GT forum.
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9th May 2007, 16:08 #76
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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
Not only that the faster a car goes round a corner, the less able gravel and tarmac can prevent it hitting something and the less time the drive has to react.
For example say a car leaves the road at 50m/s (180kph) and another at 60m/s (216kph) and a gravel trap slows the car at 2g and maybe the faster one at 2.2g due to higher drag at higher speeds over 100m before hitting a wall. The 50m/s car will slow to 23m/s while the 60m/s will slow to 38m/s.
The kinetic energy the first car has when it hits the wall will therefore be 2.73 times as great. With different (more accurate) numbers this ratio will obviously be different but the point is a 20% difference in speed makes a massive difference.Extremely impressed with the first 43 laps of Bourdais' race
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9th May 2007, 17:18 #77
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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
So the 10% increase in velocity increases energy by 21% (1.1*2) and doubling velocity does indeed quadruple energy (2*2). Now, calculating damage is a different problem, because the relation between energy of a crash and damage is probably not linear - once you hit component failure stresses damage spikes catastrophically.
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P.S. I blame any errors in this formulation on the education system, as produtive learning (secondary school physics) was followed by unproductive (college economics)."Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." - Samuel Clemens
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10th May 2007, 00:10 #78
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Clarkfan you are assuming the car does not slow due to friction + drag when it leaves the track. That is where the massive difference in energy comes from as a faster car is travelling faster and has less time to slow down over the same distance.
Extremely impressed with the first 43 laps of Bourdais' race
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10th May 2007, 01:45 #79
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Originally Posted by Mikeall
But getting back to the Yoda wings, I think they are cute and look a bit like my chihuahua's ears.When in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout
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12th May 2007, 05:09 #80
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Originally Posted by Valve BounceExtremely impressed with the first 43 laps of Bourdais' race
still 3rd after penalty
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