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31st July 2017, 12:30 #41
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31st July 2017, 12:38 #42
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The reds had to win that one .
Big engine tracks coming .
Big , big props for being the team player to both of the Merc boys .
Bottas let Hamilton by easily , trusting his team-mate would stick to the deal .
If either of them balked at the idea , it could have turned into the Nico/Lewis scenario all over again .
That is a great driver pairing .
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31st July 2017, 17:12 #43
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31st July 2017, 17:18 #44
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Actually, l am not sure why all the teams seem to struggle with the tyres at one point or the other. Is it really tyres or is it the chassis mandated by the FIA? We saw Ferrari burnt their tyres to the canvas at Silverstone. Occasionally, the Mercedes just simple cannot work with the tyres. It took some time for Redbull to get to grips with the 2017 tyres. Williams simply cannot get the tyre to work consistently.
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31st July 2017, 17:19 #45
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31st July 2017, 17:24 #46
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But did Bottas deserve to claim back the podium position after drifting back by eight seconds and falling to just over a second ahead of a rampant Verstapenn. I think Hamilton had earned the position, there was no real benefit to swop. It was risky as well but fortunately, Verstapenn did not expect that a swop was still going to happen, he would have made Hamilton pay dearly for it.
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31st July 2017, 18:07 #47
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31st July 2017, 19:59 #48
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You have no idea why Bottas was slow at that point .
But , you do know that both finished ahead of Max , and thus gained Mercedes the maximum in points for the race .
You also have to examine , had they not swapped back the positions , the strain on the relationship between the two drivers , and especially between Bottas and his team would have been tremendous , and they dealt with lots of agro between drivers when Nico was on board .
Perhaps they learned a lesson .
It seems that they are telling the drivers that they work for a team , and that that is the first priority .
The deal between the drivers was upheld , and that is worth more than the points they could lose with warring drivers , as recent history tells them .
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1st August 2017, 01:40 #49
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tBH i would have set up the switch with the caveat of Bottas being within 3-4 seconds of Hamilton with 5 laps to go in order to get the position back. It was funny that Bottas was worried about the switch back not happening when in realty he did very little to actually earn that switchback. And if the race was 2 or 3 laps longer would have gotten passed by Verstappen. alos Mercedes should have made the switch much earlier and forced Ferrari into more of a dilemma. once again we as the fans and commentators noticed Bottas dropping pace and the need for the switch at least 8 laps before Mercedes finally made that call. This year they have been very poor in race strategy, often reacting instead of being proactive. they new Vettel had an issue, they knew kimi was much faster, by switching Hamilton earlier, he would have hounded Kimi who in turn would have pressured Vettel and at the very least caused some confusion at Ferrari. but instead they allowed Ferrari to dictate things
That is why i believe what Hamilton did was very honorable and also playing the long game.
I think he just gained a valuable ace up his sleeve for later in the season and has the confidence to believe that those 3 points will be made up with his own skill.
I can now forsee Bottas giving Hamilton a position to aide his championship if it becomes a 2 horse race later on or simply giving him the position if he sees Hamilton being much faster in a given raceyou can't argue with results.
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1st August 2017, 01:47 #50
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We do Bagwan, he simply did not have the pace to keep up with the ferrari's, Hamilton and tbh verstappen.
very early in that 2nd stint he was right behind Kimi and consistently lost time behind them. It was not a matter of getting a breather then picking up his pace, he just got slower and slower.
That has been the problem with Bottas his entire career. Even the races he lead he eventually loses pace and nearly gets caught at the very end.
So yeah, he simply did not have the ability to maintain a high level of pace throughout the race and but for the graciousness of Hamilton and laps running out on verstappen, he got a podium, when at best he should have barely finished in fourth.
Earlier in the race and as soon as it was clear vettel had a problem, i was hoping that Bottas would find a way past kimi or stick close to kimi and pressure the ferrari's. But instead he just fell further and further back.you can't argue with results.
I think we saw this one coming, didn't we?
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