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    What is wrong with Torro Rosso

    http://www.eurosport.co.uk/formula-1...15/story.shtml

    The car failed scrutineering, they were asked to fix the damaged wheel tether and the team refused to comply
    upon further inspection, it was found that several cut fibers were simply knotted together

    what on earth are they doing?
    this is just crazy and dangerous.
    I won't be surprised if the FIA decide to hand out a stiff penalty to the team and car.
    you can't argue with results

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    There's got to be a lot more to this story , as the consequences seem pretty dire , should it turn out to be as it's been described .

    That they "refused to comply" sounds really bad .
    Did they not have an replacement on hand ?
    Did they somehow misinterpret the order to change it ?
    Did they think that knotting some of the fibers would be a good enough fix ?

    This could get ugly .

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    Bit of a storm in a teapot, this one. I was a bit afraid that they would be getting a serious penalty, but it has eventually come down to nothing:

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report...safe-sainz-car

    "3. The stewards are satisfied that there was no intention by the team to mislead the scrutineers.

    "4. The relevant part has since been voluntarily replaced by the team and the car has passed scrutineering."
    The stewards had also noted "the presence of knots" in the wheel tethers on Sainz's car on Thursday.

    Friday's statement said "the Stewards were informed by the team and the relevant manufacturer that these were standard in tethers and have been duly tested for use and homologated with these knots present".

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    Curious that they were said originally to have refused to change it .

    The manufacturer was called in to explain knots , which perhaps should have been clearer for scrutineers , as it seems it is normal .
    But , brake dust present in the fibers due to it's covering being compromised was also an issue , so it was right to change it , so why was there any talk of refusal in the first place ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagwan View Post
    Curious that they were said originally to have refused to change it .

    The manufacturer was called in to explain knots , which perhaps should have been clearer for scrutineers , as it seems it is normal .
    But , brake dust present in the fibers due to it's covering being compromised was also an issue , so it was right to change it , so why was there any talk of refusal in the first place ?
    indeed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagwan View Post
    Curious that they were said originally to have refused to change it .

    The manufacturer was called in to explain knots , which perhaps should have been clearer for scrutineers , as it seems it is normal .
    But , brake dust present in the fibers due to it's covering being compromised was also an issue , so it was right to change it , so why was there any talk of refusal in the first place ?
    Apparently it wasn't a refusal to change it but an Italian engineer that has bad English misheard the question and answered "No we can't" whereas they were asking something completely different than he thought. It was all a miscommunication due to a language barrier and a big nothing story in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Knight View Post
    Apparently it wasn't a refusal to change it but an Italian engineer that has bad English misheard the question and answered "No we can't" whereas they were asking something completely different than he thought. It was all a miscommunication due to a language barrier and a big nothing story in the end.
    ok. matter concluded
    you can't argue with results

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Knight View Post
    Apparently it wasn't a refusal to change it but an Italian engineer that has bad English misheard the question and answered "No we can't" whereas they were asking something completely different than he thought. It was all a miscommunication due to a language barrier and a big nothing story in the end.
    That's a simple explanation , but something that should never happen at this level .
    If the team and the FIA cannot communicate clearly , especially when there is a safety issue , it is , or should be , a big story , not a big nothing story .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bagwan View Post
    That's a simple explanation , but something that should never happen at this level .
    If the team and the FIA cannot communicate clearly , especially when there is a safety issue , it is , or should be , a big story , not a big nothing story .
    Miscommunication is part of life. It always has happened and always will. You see it every day. However, I agree, it seems like the procedure needs polishing up here.

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