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    Just saw the daily highlights.

    Mikkelsens' mistake was not on same spot as Ogier/Neuville/Meeke. It was quite innocent touch-up that you see with every driver on just about every stage, this kind would usually end with puncture if it's against rock/concrete but against sidebanks it typically does nothing. Double puncture from that is quite some luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    Because you won't win with two spares and that's what everyone is driving for in this rally
    What caused the guys further down the field to puncture was the entry to the bridge that made them cancelled the stage, the rally itself is probably smoother than Finland.
    I can´t really follow the line of thinking here.

    One spare, two punctures = you won´t win
    Two spares, two punctures = still in the game.

    Knowing you have only one spare, shouldn´t it make you drive more careful? Loosing time also, maybe?
    There´s also a car and a driver and also what happens in their interaction, eg. skillness is more important than a car going 0,1 sec slower with two spare.

    So, no I don´t follow. And smooth roads and still a whole chunk of punctures?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    And smooth roads and still a whole chunk of punctures?
    Michelin tyres are bad as it is this year. More punctures...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    I can´t really follow the line of thinking here.

    One spare, two punctures = you won´t win
    Two spares, two punctures = still in the game.

    Knowing you have only one spare, shouldn´t it make you drive more careful? Loosing time also, maybe?
    There´s also a car and a driver and also what happens in their interaction, eg. skillness is more important than a car going 0,1 sec slower with two spare.

    So, no I don´t follow. And smooth roads and still a whole chunk of punctures?
    But with two spares you need to push harder to not loose too much time to those who has one so...
    It didn't work for the Citroëns with two spares, losing loads of time with 16 and 33sec behind in Nambucca in the first loop then Meek hits a bridge pushing too hard.

    Hasn't been many punctures here, Breen had one off the rim?
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    These bridges are quite tricky, you can easily loose a lot. It's better step back a little and get to the finish maybe sec slower and still be in the game. He is experienced enough and could know that... In the RBR (game) I was often crash into the bridge and lose all. And pretty muh every bridge was behind some corner and I push pretty much and not get t the finish.. Guys I know is the game but similar in the reality..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    But with two spares you need to push harder to not loose too much time to those who has one so...
    It didn't work for the Citroëns with two spares, losing loads of time with 16 and 33sec behind in Nambucca in the first loop then Meek hits a bridge pushing too hard.

    Hasn't been many punctures here, Breen had one off the rim?
    Still, Mikkelsen lost his lead, and no win. Bcs only one spare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper View Post
    Still, Mikkelsen lost his lead, and no win. Bcs only one spare.
    Well he would have lost the lead and likely the win regardless of whether he had another spare in the boot.

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    watch how unlucky was Meeke,and how lucky was Ogier.Nice different camera catch at Tanaks nice jump.
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