Schumi and Ogier

[Revman]

Alright.....as noted first year in WRC for me as Toyota entered, so bear with me as I reference WRC drivers to F1. I asked on this Forum at one time if my perception that Jari-Matti had similar characteristics as Jean Alesi. The response was affirmative. So, I have been watching this Seb Ogier character all year, and I am wondering....Is he the Schumi of WRC? Why or why not?

[steve.mandzij]

How was Jean Alesi?

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[Revman]

How was Alesi like Jari-Matti? I think in the sense that they are both emotional, drive with their hearts, sometimes are their own worst enemies....but at the end of the day, very talented. Maybe some untapped potential in both..... For me, both are drivers I can buy into...I think when they take the wheel, everything else go away--the fame, etc.--it just becomes about the driving.

[seb_sh]

IMO Loeb is probably a better comparison to Schumacher in regards to the combination of talent and professionalism but also the impact on their respective championships. Ogier is like a copy of Loeb with probably a weaker psyche, possibly fundamentally, possibly due his constant comparison of himself to Loeb and his records (I assume).

[Revman]

IMO Loeb is probably a better comparison to Schumacher in regards to the combination of talent and professionalism but also the impact on their respective championships. Ogier is like a copy of Loeb with probably a weaker psyche, possibly fundamentally, possibly due his constant comparison of himself to Loeb and his records (I assume).

Thank you. Fabulous insight. Makes sense.

[Rally Power]

Schumi what? Jean who? Come on guys, whit so many brilliant Rally aces from the past to compare there’s no need to mention F1 drivers! Lots of info of every WRC event winner at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...onship_records

Btw, even if each driver circumstances are unique and difficult to compare, Ogier reminds me the great Walter Rohrl. Here’s a nice tribute to the Master: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ollt2LY0wsU

[NickRally]

Schumi what? Jean who? Come on guys, whit so many brilliant Rally aces from the past to compare there’s no need to mention F1 drivers! Lots of info of every WRC event winner at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...onship_records

Btw, even if each driver circumstances are unique and difficult to compare, Ogier reminds me the great Walter Rohrl. Here’s a nice tribute to the Master: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ollt2LY0wsU

You are correct, plenty of past rally drivers that we can compare to, but it is just interesting to compare to drivers from other motorsport disciplines too, or even to sportsmen from other sports

[Rally Power]

You are correct, plenty of past rally drivers that we can compare to, but it is just interesting to compare to drivers from other motorsport disciplines too, or even to sportsmen from other sports

Fair point. Tbh, my goal was to remember young guys and newcomers like Revman, that WRC has a fantastic, and sometimes not fully appreciated, heritage.

[Revman]

You are correct, plenty of past rally drivers that we can compare to, but it is just interesting to compare to drivers from other motorsport disciplines too, or even to sportsmen from other sports

I agree. I am new to WRC, and I was just trying to draw from my past experience with F1 in terms of driver personalities. As my understanding of WRC deepens, I will leave the sins of my past behind! LOL

[Sub_Skoda]

IMO Loeb is probably a better comparison to Schumacher in regards to the combination of talent and professionalism but also the impact on their respective championships. Ogier is like a copy of Loeb with probably a weaker psyche, possibly fundamentally, possibly due his constant comparison of himself to Loeb and his records (I assume).

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