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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    It's just a part of Ogier's long-term tactics. He used all of 2017 to lure all his competitors into cruise mode so he can win all the rallies in 2018.
    Interesting indeed... let's see what Sweden brings in terms of risk versus good points. Ogier finished with 1min advantage the Monte, they may all use the same approach now, but they are not 5x champion with natural raw speed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    I was just wondering since studless road tyres are softer than the studded ones.
    Studdles fades really fast though, scared myself once only after a few corners on dry tarmac since it was suddenly like driving on marbles.
    Don't know how it is now but at least few years back the Monte Carlo tyres without studs were actually pretty crappy on snow in comparison to anything except what was available for Monte. In 2010 we had Prague rallysprint with snow (on asphalt - so just like Monte) and no studs allowed. P.G. Andersson was using Monte tyres and he was completely destroyed by guys using stock winter tyres or even protector tyres with a 30-years old rally pattern (used by rallycars in 80'). P.G. himself told me the Monte tyres were really bad without studs exactly because they were too hard.

    Check this stage (full snow technical stage quite similar to what You can find in RMC): https://rally-base.com/2010/tipcars-...43&ssGroupId=1

    Less than 7 km and PG was 37 seconds slower without spinning or some other mistake. If I remember Valoušek - the fastest guy was on stock 18" wide Nokian WR tyres with additional hand cuts. I don't remember all other but Pech and Štajf were on very old narrow Matador non-studded snow rally tyres (the softest snow rally tyres ever produced I believe).

    PS The stock Nokians were gone after 20 km if I remember.
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    Think that's why SubaruNorway is asking.

    "Studless snow tire" can mean extremely different properties depending on the compound. Stock example since you mentioned Nokian would be the difference between studless Hakkapeliitta and the "Central Europe" WR D3. In full snow/ice conditions it is about as much of a step between them as there is between summer tires and the WR D3. But this also counts the opposite way if it's wet tarmac. The studless Hakkapeliitta feels like jelly compared with the WR D3.

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    Thank you for the story.
    And and this is why i find watching the cars on snow in MC a bit of an anticlimax since i know i could go faster in my own STI in most places. (If I'm brave enough)
    A third tyre option for full snow would be good and safer, i wonder if they have tried a stock Michelin winter tyre before to see how it works.

    In America they use this funny thing called tractionizing if you haven't seen it before.
    https://youtu.be/P5bnYgI30ZQ
    Last edited by SubaruNorway; 1st February 2018 at 20:28.
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    Does anyone know what was the trophy that Kalle received at the finish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essaj View Post
    Does anyone know what was the trophy that Kalle received at the finish?
    2nd of class RC2? My father-in-law has a trophy in his bookshelf for being third in 1000 Lakes Rally in the 80's in some small Group N class, but it's still a proper trophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    2nd of class RC2? My father-in-law has a trophy in his bookshelf for being third in 1000 Lakes Rally in the 80's in some small Group N class, but it's still a proper trophy.
    But the trophy is bigger than Jan's https://twitter.com/MotorsportSkoda/...56616668684288

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essaj View Post
    But the trophy is bigger than Jan's https://twitter.com/MotorsportSkoda/...56616668684288
    No, Kalle is smaller - still growing.
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    Rallirinki picture gallery from RMC
    https://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Ra...te+Carlo+2018/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Essaj View Post
    Does anyone know what was the trophy that Kalle received at the finish?
    He was best privateer. (Driving with TGS car)
    "quattro best 4wd rallycar ever"

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