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    WRC Crash Trophy 2017

    I thought it would be fun to count points for the worst WRC crashers. I decided to make a points system:

    1: Out of the road with no damage
    2: Out of the road with damage or a roll, no retirement
    3: Crash that results in Rally2
    5: Crash that results in retirement

    A driver may collect many of these during an event, for example Ogier was off the road twice in Portugal, he gets 2 points. Meeke crashed to Rally2 and to retirement in Argentina, so that's 8 points.

    I just hope I haven't forgotten any crashes from the list, let me know if I have.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...xnGR10/pubhtml

    The current top (or bottom) 5 would be:

    1. Kris Meeke 26
    2. Juho Hänninen 16
    3. Hayden Paddon 15
    4. Stephane Lefevbvre 12
    5. Elfyn Evans 8

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    I would have added point 4 or to point 3: out of the road with no damage but hoplesly stuck.
    Good statistics to analyze at the end of the year.

    Point 2 is difficult to remember, imo there have been more of those.
    Last edited by Tarmop; 28th June 2017 at 09:48.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmop View Post
    Point 2 is difficult to remember, imo there have been more of those.
    I think I have all of those, but it's the hardest to collect the one point offs. Did Breen go out in Sweden slightly? Did Meeke have a slight off before his TV stage off? Did Ogier have two or three moments in Monte? I have to re-watch the highlight videos...

    Also, I'm not counting spins. Nor moments where you stayed on the road but the car broke, like Breen in Argentina and Sardinia, or Østberg in Sardinia.

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    Good idea. We can do a manufacturer's trophy too

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    I think I have all of those, but it's the hardest to collect the one point offs. Did Breen go out in Sweden slightly? Did Meeke have a slight off before his TV stage off? Did Ogier have two or three moments in Monte? I have to re-watch the highlight videos...

    Also, I'm not counting spins. Nor moments where you stayed on the road but the car broke, like Breen in Argentina and Sardinia, or Østberg in Sardinia.
    Difficult exactly about the minor offs. If a car goes off the road, but keeps moving - well, is that really an off or just a hot moment. Sometimes you're lucky, sometimes not. Or if you cut too much - obvious driver error - break the car, but keep on the road...

    Altogether, I'm following this :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartusvuori View Post
    Difficult exactly about the minor offs. If a car goes off the road, but keeps moving - well, is that really an off or just a hot moment. Sometimes you're lucky, sometimes not. Or if you cut too much - obvious driver error - break the car, but keep on the road...
    Yeh. I'm not counting stuff like Neuville going a bit wide in Argentina, but counting Ogier's off to the field in Monte on the TV stage. I'd say the criteria is that the car goes off the road for 1 point. However, you can get a 2 point by breaking the car without leaving the road.

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    You might also have a WRC Rally Incident of the Year 'Plate' - represented by destroyed number plates joined together from crashed WRC cars, for the voted single most spectacular accident/ incident of the season.
    The nominees for 2016 might have been Paddon - car fire Portugal, Bertelli - Rally Finland, Lefebvre - Germany.

    2017 - Nominees - Meeke - the 2nd crash in Argentina. possibly Paddon - 2nd crash in Sardinia.

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    Bertellis 2016 RF car was rebuilt I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeakiwi View Post
    2017 - Nominees - Meeke - the 2nd crash in Argentina. possibly Paddon - 2nd crash in Sardinia.
    Has Meeke already destroyed two C3's? Is the Sardinia car rebuilt?

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    I was bored so I double checked your math:

    I don't count going off the road slightly and then getting back on again like an off. You have to have either caused cosmetic or light mechanical damage or come to a complete stop to be off. Running wide in a junction is not an off.

    Counting only regulars not Bertelli etc.

    _Event 1 MC_
    Meeke crashed once and retired on road section = 8 points.
    Neuville rally 2 from lead = 3 points
    Hänninen crashed into a tree = 3 points
    Lefebvre burnt the clutch after exit = 3 points
    Ogier ditch = 1 point
    Evans same = 1 point

    _Event 2 Sweden_
    Meeke twice off the road but without damage = 2 points
    Hänninen tree again and rally 2 = 3 points
    Neuville sss, rally 2 = 3 points
    Breen snowbank = 1 point
    Lefebvre snowbank = 1 point
    Something happened to Evans here but can't figure out what.

    _Event 3 Mexico_
    Meeke off road on power stage = 1 point (maybe 2 if you count cosm. damage)
    Ogier off and damaged a bumper = 2 points
    Lefebvre rally 2 = 3 points


    _Event 4 Corsica_
    Hänninen crashed twice, retiring once = 8 points
    Lefebvre rally 2 = 3 points
    Evans rally 2 = 3 points
    Tänak ditch = 1 point

    _Event 5 Argentina_
    Meeke rolled twice, retired 2nd time = 8 points
    Paddon rolled but continued = 2 point
    Sordo broke steering arm (but continued) = 2 point

    _Event 6 portugal_
    Meeke crashed but rally 2 = 3 points
    Lefebvre rolled but continued = 2 points
    Tänak broke a suspension arm on a bank = 2 points
    Latvala rolled = 2 points
    Lappi spun and touched a wall = 1 points

    _Event 7 Italy_
    Meeke crashed + retired again = 5 points
    Paddon crashed twice, retiring once = 8 points
    Evans crashed, was retired by team after last stage... = 3 points
    Hänninen crashed and broke radiator, managed to keep on going = 2

    _Event 8 Poland_
    Tänak retired = 5 points
    Ogier spun + damage = 2 points
    Mikkelsen off two times = 2 points

    That should be all... if I missed something, let me know

    Meeke 27 points
    Hänninen 16 points
    Paddon 10 points
    Lefebvre 12 points
    Neuville 6 points
    Evans 7 points (maybe more... missing one event)
    Tänak 8 points
    Ogier 5 points
    Sordo 2 points
    Latvala 2 points
    Breen 1 Point
    Lappi 1 point
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