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    the same cut for all drivers at this video.
    from these cameras seems that fiestas cutted like hyundais.You can watch the big bump was visible inside the cars.Of course again few centimetres could do the difference.
    The irony is that Meeke had the cleanest pass from this spot
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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    the same cut for all drivers at this video.
    from these cameras seems that fiestas cutted like hyundais.You can watch the big bump was visible inside the cars.Of course again few centimetres could do the difference.
    The irony is that Meeke had the cleanest pass from this spot
    https://www.facebook.com/FanClubTNNG...7111482010660/
    It's also hard to compare passes between different cars due to slightly different camera placement.
    But I agree that especially Tanak was as much in as Sordo/Mikkelsen (and the damaged wheel confirms that). Neuville was imo visible more left than them.

    Note the person warning Meeke just before the turn on the left. In the WRC highlights they said it was Sordo. None of the other drivers get any warning as far as I can seen.

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    Well, they are good friends based on social media posts, so maybe thats why he's only warning him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Note the person warning Meeke just before the turn on the left. In the WRC highlights they said it was Sordo. None of the other drivers get any warning as far as I can seen.
    Ye, seen some talk about Sordo warning everyone except Mikkelsen due to Mikkelsen coming in and "stealing" a seat. Don't look like that's the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    So, Wilson calling his drivers to ease up is just common sense…let’s see what you’ll say on other team bosses in the future.

    Btw, at the end of SS16 Tanak was 1.8s behind Ogier and during the morning the French was only 0.25s faster than him; he looked prepared to fight for P2 till the end.
    So what, they should fight and risk both their positions and team points with Hyundai in disaray ?

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    I don't get all the fuss about possible team orders to hold the positions between Tanak and Ogier.
    Do you really think Malcom ora any other team boss would risk both championships because team orders are bad? What was the point NOT TO give team orders in that occasion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL14 View Post
    I don't get all the fuss about possible team orders to hold the positions between Tanak and Ogier.
    Do you really think Malcom ora any other team boss would risk both championships because team orders are bad? What was the point NOT TO give team orders in that occasion?
    No one is doing a fuss mate, just mentioning the fact that one title contender told in a press conference he was ordered to ease up. Why should we (and the press, btw) ignore it? Especially when the order came from the same team boss that a couple of days before publicly announced there would not be any orders at all?
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    'Team orders' in rallying has a bad connotation, as it usually implies an inferior driver being told to slow to let a better one pass.

    But in this case the driver in front was the No.1. The No.2 driver was behind and with a car with an issue (gravel gearbox).

    There is no big fuss being made in this case, as no-one thinks telling the No.2 driver to hold station is in any way a bad thing. Ogier & Tanak were not neck-and-neck for the title - Ogier had a clear lead.

    M-Sport were about to virtually ensure the Manufacturer's championship AND have a 1-2 in the Driver's. No sane person would put that at risk by fighting among themselves.
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    There is nothing wrong with team orders, as long as both drivers are OK with it. Was Tanak happy? I don't know, hope he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jparker View Post
    There is nothing wrong with team orders, as long as both drivers are OK with it. Was Tanak happy? I don't know, hope he was.
    Whether he was happy or not was irrelevant... it's a team sport.

    If he thought fighting Ogier was a sensible idea at that point in the rally/season then he has a lot to learn.

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