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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Could Ogier tame the C3 with his development skills?
    I think what they need most of all is a couple of new engineers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    And he did have a real issue with his driving style mainly regarding down-changing which really didnt work with the Fiesta.
    What's his style like?

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    My guess:

    Ford M-Sport
    Ogier
    Tänak
    Suninen
    Camilli

    Hyundai
    Neuville
    Sordo
    Paddon
    Lim

    Toyota
    Latvala
    Lappi
    Japanese

    Citroën
    Mikkelsen
    Breen
    Lefebvre
    Al-Qassimi

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    What's his style like?
    Østberg claimed the down-shifting issues appeared mid-season after M-sport tried to increase engine performance. He had no issues first half of the season.

    Anyway we are just running way off-topic. My conclusion still is that 2016 Fiesta was the slowest of the 4 factory cars.

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    @Andre Oliveira

    That is assuming Ford return then?

    Why would they pick Camilli and Suninen over Evans? Camilli is even having trouble keeping up with the top WRC2 guys. Suninen looks promising but it is still a bit early for him to get promoted permanently (probably).

    The rest seems like good assumptions to me (Ford in scenario). Maybe guys like Tidemand and Veiby might play third or fourth car roles in Toyota and Citroen.

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    Guys, VW may spoil your nice discussion here. Ogier and Mikkelsen back to VW is my guess.

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    jparker we've been through this before there is no sign whatsoever that VW is coming back.
    Last edited by Watson; 13th June 2017 at 15:50.

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    I know, but it's logical. Who keeps winning car in the garage? How stupid the VW management has to be to not understand that?

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    Give me your definition of logic. They pulled out for good therefore they will come back?

    VW left because they have costly lawsuits against them and they couldn't afford it anymore. They also pulled Audi out of the Le Mans series which was the Golden Calf of the VW Group Motorsport department.

    It would make no sense whatsoever to come back next year. They'd have to put up all the tents they tore down last year. Do you know what that costs?

    The Polo also can't be run privately unless the other manufacturers approve which they won't before they can be sure that they developped their cars enough to run circles around the Polo.

    So please, can we put this to bed now? It will not happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watson View Post
    That's just pre-season testing. Flying back and forth Estonia and the UK in first class ain't such a shabby deal.

    Moreover Wilson and Tanak have history. Hell, Estonia and Wilson have history due to Märtin.
    Toyota does test in Finland almost every week...
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