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    Quote Originally Posted by jparker View Post
    If Citroen don't get Ogier, Mikkelsen for sure will join them in 2018, so don't be so quick to judge.
    Not so sure about that, Matton says Meeke, Breen and Lefebvre have deals for 2018 and that Citroën doesn't have a car for Loeb in 2018 yet, I would believe Citroën would welcome Loeb more than Mikkelsen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post

    I mean, the way the article is written it suggest that Makinen would rather have Evans than Ogier, Tanak or Mikkelsen (all without contract for next year). Also calling Evans a "youngster" at age of 29 and after he already had full wrc season 2 years ago

    Guess it's a product of the previously discussed British-jurno bias.
    If David Evans called Mäkinen and asked if he's interested in signing [insert current factory driver], most likely he'll say yes to them all. And that's probably what the article is based on.

    But seriously, Evans hasn't been that bad this season. He almost won Argentina. He made good stage times in Mexico, but his race was ruined by an engine switch and time penalty and thus driving first on the road. Also good times in Portugal but a puncture and a small off causing another puncture slowed him down. For the last ten stages of Monte he was always in top five. Some technical problems and an off in TDC. He was off the pace in Sweden, Poland and Sardegna, but it could be down the tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Evans to choose between Ford and Toyota for 2018 WRC !

    https://www.motorsport-news.co.uk/ne...-for-2018-wrc/
    This is some quality humor

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigWorm View Post
    Not so sure about that, Matton says Meeke, Breen and Lefebvre have deals for 2018 and that Citroën doesn't have a car for Loeb in 2018 yet, I would believe Citroën would welcome Loeb more than Mikkelsen.
    Loeb is too old for it. He will probably join them just as "consultant" for few events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jparker View Post
    Loeb is too old for it. He will probably join them just as "consultant" for few events.
    Yeah. Citroen also has already plenty of drivers. Matton already said only Meeke will do a full season next year, which would fit in the picture of Loeb stepping in on some events, and Breen, Lefebvre and Al-Qassimi driving some events here and there. Not much space for Mikkelsen, who is anyway out of the team after Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    If David Evans called Mäkinen and asked if he's interested in signing [insert current factory driver], most likely he'll say yes to them all. And that's probably what the article is based on.
    Spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jparker View Post
    If Citroen don't get Ogier, Mikkelsen for sure will join them in 2018, so don't be so quick to judge.
    I didnt, it was others here that judged early. Things change very quickly in WRC as Mikkelsen found out last year.
    #M-SPORTER

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    Quote Originally Posted by er88 View Post
    Germany will be a big event for Andreas. Can't be getting beat up time wise by Meeke or Breen, or it'll be 3 consecutive poor showings in the C3.

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    Indeed. However, it will be a big event for Meeke as well.
    Sometimes things in WRC are so unfair.
    Both drivers have proven history, and now they have to race against each other with crappy car, just to show who is better. This is like gladiator battle.

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    The battle of the crapcars speedwise for last 2 rallies:

    Poland: Lefevbre~=Mikkelsen(best PS result for Citroen for whole year btw)>Breen
    Finland: Breen>Meek

    So Lefevbre is the best driver? (or maybe there just a bit more to it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Well maybe media saying Toyota "has a new engine" means it just has some newly homologated parts?
    That’s the case. Maybe the drivers and team members of Toyota don’t want to or are not allowed to go into any details what has been done. As far as I know new mapping (different in different rallies) don’t need a use of a joker so the use of a joker must include some new parts as maybe new camshafts.

    We had couple of our grandkids visiting us last week and it was not until yesterday I read the newspaper “Helsingin Sanomat” from last Friday. Also in that article is said that the Toyota’s have a new engine that has improved torque and driveability.

    http://www.hs.fi/urheilu/art-2000005304604.html

    I recorded the Harju 1 live to be able to watch the program later in peace. I don’t remember exactly what was said because I concentrated more on watching than listening but I remember they mentioned increased torque. I already deleted the program so I can’t check was what said.
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