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    If he/they win the Championship I see no reason why Ogier would leave M-Sport.

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    Since Toyota is based in Finland/Estonia, Tänak could tilt towards Toyota simply for getting more time with his family in Estonia. Add to that a fat check from Japan and it could be a very easy deal for him to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    If he/they win the Championship I see no reason why Ogier would leave M-Sport.
    Because M-Sport cannot afford him. And Ogier has said he wants to be in a factory team that really puts money into car development.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmm View Post
    Since Toyota is based in Finland/Estonia, Tänak could tilt towards Toyota simply for getting more time with his family in Estonia. Add to that a fat check from Japan and it could be a very easy deal for him to make.
    Hardly, if Ford come back they are with big certainty equally as wealthy and will build faster cars (M-Sport expertise combined with Ford money equals a rocket Fiesta). The drivers don't spend much time at the HQs anyway, you have to travel for the events and testing most of all.

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    If he/they win the Championship I see no reason why Ogier would leave M-Sport.
    Wilson said he can't afford Ogier another year by himself and Ogier made it very clear that he wants full factory backing to keep the car competitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watson View Post
    The drivers don't spend much time at the HQs anyway, you have to travel for the events and testing most of all.
    But most of the testing is done in the team home country, in the case of Toyota that would be Finland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    But most of the testing is done in the team home country, in the case of Toyota that would be Finland.
    That's just pre-season testing. Flying back and forth Estonia and the UK in first class ain't such a shabby deal.

    Moreover Wilson and Tanak have history. Hell, Estonia and Wilson have history due to Märtin.
    Last edited by Watson; 13th June 2017 at 12:45.

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    Re Ogier it also depends on his other options... why leave for money when other teams like Citroen are no better. He wants to win titles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Re Ogier it also depends on his other options... wny leave for money when other teams like Citroen are no better. He wants to win titles.
    It's not simply about the money Ogier is getting it's about money for car development, testing, building parts and cars and so on. I've read somewhere (dunno if it's true) that Wilson put savings money into this year so he could develop the car at a level to match the other teams and that he can't do the same next year.

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    The 2016 Fiesta was still as good as anything (bar the Polo) even though it was old and Ford pulled out years ago.

    The 2017 Fiesta was also late and tested less than the factory ones yet it is still a winning car.

    Money isnt everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    The 2016 Fiesta was still as good as anything (bar the Polo) even though it was old and Ford pulled out years ago.
    I can't agree with that. Specially considering Østbergs massive performance drop in the second half of the season. Tanak on DMACK is rather difficult to use as a measure.
    Also Hyundai was clearly faster in the second half of the season.

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