Page 2 of 96 FirstFirst 12341252 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 960

Thread: 2018 Teams

  1. #11
    Senior Member Fast Eddie WRC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    England
    Posts
    18,782
    Like
    3,417
    Liked 9,311 Times in 4,938 Posts
    If he/they win the Championship I see no reason why Ogier would leave M-Sport.

  2. Likes: gorganl2000 (13th June 2017),WRC1 (13th June 2017)
  3. #12
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    46
    Like
    33
    Liked 37 Times in 23 Posts
    Since Toyota is based in Finland/Estonia, Tänak could tilt towards Toyota simply for getting more time with his family in Estonia. Add to that a fat check from Japan and it could be a very easy deal for him to make.

  4. Likes: steve.mandzij (20th June 2017)
  5. #13
    Senior Member AnttiL's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    9,625
    Like
    8,775
    Liked 10,522 Times in 4,616 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    If he/they win the Championship I see no reason why Ogier would leave M-Sport.
    Because M-Sport cannot afford him. And Ogier has said he wants to be in a factory team that really puts money into car development.

  6. Likes: A FONDO (13th June 2017)
  7. #14
    Senior Member Watson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Posts
    539
    Like
    0
    Liked 377 Times in 187 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by mmm View Post
    Since Toyota is based in Finland/Estonia, Tänak could tilt towards Toyota simply for getting more time with his family in Estonia. Add to that a fat check from Japan and it could be a very easy deal for him to make.
    Hardly, if Ford come back they are with big certainty equally as wealthy and will build faster cars (M-Sport expertise combined with Ford money equals a rocket Fiesta). The drivers don't spend much time at the HQs anyway, you have to travel for the events and testing most of all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    If he/they win the Championship I see no reason why Ogier would leave M-Sport.
    Wilson said he can't afford Ogier another year by himself and Ogier made it very clear that he wants full factory backing to keep the car competitive.

  8. #15
    Senior Member AnttiL's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Location
    Finland
    Posts
    9,625
    Like
    8,775
    Liked 10,522 Times in 4,616 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Watson View Post
    The drivers don't spend much time at the HQs anyway, you have to travel for the events and testing most of all.
    But most of the testing is done in the team home country, in the case of Toyota that would be Finland.

  9. #16
    Senior Member Watson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2017
    Posts
    539
    Like
    0
    Liked 377 Times in 187 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    But most of the testing is done in the team home country, in the case of Toyota that would be Finland.
    That's just pre-season testing. Flying back and forth Estonia and the UK in first class ain't such a shabby deal.

    Moreover Wilson and Tanak have history. Hell, Estonia and Wilson have history due to Märtin.
    Last edited by Watson; 13th June 2017 at 12:45.

  10. #17
    Senior Member Fast Eddie WRC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    England
    Posts
    18,782
    Like
    3,417
    Liked 9,311 Times in 4,938 Posts
    Re Ogier it also depends on his other options... why leave for money when other teams like Citroen are no better. He wants to win titles.

  11. Likes: Andre Oliveira (13th June 2017),gorganl2000 (13th June 2017)
  12. #18
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    1,815
    Like
    1,472
    Liked 1,829 Times in 707 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Re Ogier it also depends on his other options... wny leave for money when other teams like Citroen are no better. He wants to win titles.
    It's not simply about the money Ogier is getting it's about money for car development, testing, building parts and cars and so on. I've read somewhere (dunno if it's true) that Wilson put savings money into this year so he could develop the car at a level to match the other teams and that he can't do the same next year.

  13. Likes: A FONDO (13th June 2017),steve.mandzij (20th June 2017)
  14. #19
    Senior Member Fast Eddie WRC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    England
    Posts
    18,782
    Like
    3,417
    Liked 9,311 Times in 4,938 Posts
    The 2016 Fiesta was still as good as anything (bar the Polo) even though it was old and Ford pulled out years ago.

    The 2017 Fiesta was also late and tested less than the factory ones yet it is still a winning car.

    Money isnt everything.

  15. Likes: A FONDO (13th June 2017),andyone (14th June 2017)
  16. #20
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    5,798
    Like
    337
    Liked 3,786 Times in 1,977 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    The 2016 Fiesta was still as good as anything (bar the Polo) even though it was old and Ford pulled out years ago.
    I can't agree with that. Specially considering Østbergs massive performance drop in the second half of the season. Tanak on DMACK is rather difficult to use as a measure.
    Also Hyundai was clearly faster in the second half of the season.

  17. Likes: steve.mandzij (20th June 2017)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •