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    Quote Originally Posted by ESTR View Post
    Who ask you anything...
    Some idiot who wrote "fuck Suninen".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Andruet View Post
    Some idiot who wrote "fuck Suninen".
    Now you sound like an idiot... But don't worry you can't drag me to your level...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ESTR View Post
    Who ask you anything...
    its enough,stop it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ESTR View Post
    Fuck suninen. I would go with Pontus. He is capable more than Suninen. If Suninen were that good he would not be sitting on third place. And with M-Sport team (sure he do 2 events in WRC car), but he isn't quite there yet.
    This year:
    Suninen 29 WRC points
    Tidemand 4 WRC points

    For me both reserve WRC seat and both are probably faster than some of drivers who are driving WRC17 machinery.
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    Everybody talking about their own country drivers. Finland now has many upcomers and WRDC material for the future. But what much more has Pontus to prove to get everybody happy? He does deserve a seat in 2017 no matter what happens to all others. (Finns, French, Irish, British or whatever)
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    Suninen prooved he is fast in Finland and Poland, fast dry smooth gravel roads. But what will he do in Mexico? Monte Carlo? Corsica? Wales?
    He is among the top in his own country, but in other rallies it will be much more difficult to achieve the same results.
    Tidemand and Suninen both deserve a full season in a WRC but have both still a lot to learn.
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    Some statistics over Tidemand & Suninen...

    Suninen:
    -Championships won: 0
    -Rallies won: 5 (WRC2), 2 (WRC3)
    -Podiums: 10 (WRC2), 2 (WRC3)
    -Other: 1 won in Euro RX (Super1600), 2 podiums EuroRX (Super1600)
    -Retires: 2

    TIDEMAND:
    -Championships won: 1 (JWRC), 1 (WRC2)
    -Rallies won: 3 (JWRC), 8 (WRC2)
    -Podiums: 1 (SWRC), 8 (JWRC), 17 (WRC2), overall podium (JWRC)
    -Retires: 7
    -Other: 1 podium EuroRX (Supercar), Overall Podium on EuroRX championship (Supercar)

    btw Tidemand become most successful driver in WRC2 with most wins.

    Sure Suninen have 2 events in WRC '17 car. And he show some speed there (but if he wouldn't pay for these drives then he wouldn't have it).

    We will see who will have more backing and get into the DMACK car maybe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ESTR View Post
    Some statistics over Tidemand & Suninen...

    Suninen:
    -Championships won: 0
    -Rallies won: 5 (WRC2), 2 (WRC3)
    -Podiums: 10 (WRC2), 2 (WRC3)
    -Other: 1 won in Euro RX (Super1600), 2 podiums EuroRX (Super1600)
    -Retires: 2

    TIDEMAND:
    -Championships won: 1 (JWRC), 1 (WRC2)
    -Rallies won: 3 (JWRC), 8 (WRC2)
    -Podiums: 1 (SWRC), 8 (JWRC), 17 (WRC2), overall podium (JWRC)
    -Retires: 7
    -Other: 1 podium EuroRX (Supercar), Overall Podium on EuroRX championship (Supercar)

    btw Tidemand become most successful driver in WRC2 with most wins.

    Sure Suninen have 2 events in WRC '17 car. And he show some speed there (but if he wouldn't pay for these drives then he wouldn't have it).

    We will see who will have more backing and get into the DMACK car maybe...
    No point to compare raw numbers without taking into account that Pontus is in WRC since 2012 (or was it 13?) while Suninen made his debut in a 4WD 2 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AL14 View Post
    No point to compare raw numbers without taking into account that Pontus is in WRC since 2012 (or was it 13?) while Suninen made his debut in a 4WD 2 years ago.
    In 2012 Tidemand race only one event in 4WD S2000 car (he finished on 3rd place)...

    The rest 2012 & 2013 season he drove FWD Fiesta.

    In 2014 he enter 3 events with r5 car (2 podiums, one 4th place).

    Real season in 4WD car come in 2015 and forwards.

    So that mean he have 4 rallies more experience in 4WD car than Teemu. Teemu have 2 in WRC '17, Pontus none.

    Aren't that quite equal??

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    Talking about experience Suninen did 51 rally (according ewrc-results.com) while Tidemand 111 - thats twice. Also Tidemand did APRC with diferent roads and conditions. Is Tidemand better - I think so, Suninen still quite raw, but fast enough to do OK in WRC already. So gat is not that big, as ESTR trying to prove.

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