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    When do we get a decision on four car teams next year?

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    Come on Ford, do the right thing and reward M-Sport for all they have done for publicising the new Fiesta !!
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    Matton will have a lot to answer for if Seb stays at Msport/Ford. Thats on top of the poor year they've had off the back of mistakes/risks they took in development and engineering...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ESTR View Post
    Am I the only one who doesn't want Ogier in championship at all. For sure not in Hyundai team. Sorry but I hate him because of his dominance, like Loeb. He could go in another sport and try his luck anywhere else and we will see how good he is...

    And still Wilson says if Ford doesn't come back to support M-Sport or get major sponsor he will go.. What about Red Bull?? Why would be Hyundai grabbing him because of Red Bull.

    And why works teams give drivers 2 or 3 year contracts if they change drivers every year?? If they are not sure of them why don't they give them one year deal and that's it. Now it will suffer Paddon, Sordo, Breen, Lefebvre, maybe Meeke, Hanninen...
    Hänninen had only one year contract.

    The difference between M-Sport and Hyundai is that one has a factory backing the development financially and one doesn't. It's not just about Ogier's salary. Ogier wants strong car development and Wilson couldn't do another year like this.

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    Ford: Evans, Sunninen, Tidemand (DMack), Ostberg
    Hyundai: Neuville, Mikkelsen, Sordo, Paddon
    Toyota: Tanak, Latvala, Lappi, Hanninen
    Citroen: Ogier, Meeke, Breen and Loeb/al Qassimi/Lefebvre share 4th car.

    ... would sound good to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Hänninen had only one year contract.

    The difference between M-Sport and Hyundai is that one has a factory backing the development financially and one doesn't. It's not just about Ogier's salary. Ogier wants strong car development and Wilson couldn't do another year like this.
    Still Hanninen deserve a seat. At least for another year. Like Breen. No Toyota and Citroen will instead throw them away...

    It will be easier if they can run four cars or maybe like previous years two works' teams for each 2 drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seb_sh View Post
    Tanak to Toyota after all?
    That would still be my bet (for what it's worth...). That David Evans story about "Tänak to stay at M-Sport" was pure BS but unfortunately it was spread wide.

    The way Hänninen sounded during and after the rally, somehow seem to tell that he won't be continuing with the team. Which is a shame, if true - he's finally been able to find his old "IRC form" in the past few rallies after so many tepid years.

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    I agree with Allez. Hanninens comment saying it’s been a pleasure competing against the top and being able to keep up with them. Also saying it’s been one of the best finishes of his life. I think he’s implying the end of his stint with Toyota. Let’s hope they keep him. Seems like a ton of unknowns still. Once again things waiting for Ogier to make a move. Maybe Tanak stays if Ogier goes to Citroen which means Hanninen stays.. hope to hear finalized deals after Rally GB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    The difference between M-Sport and Hyundai is that one has a factory backing the development financially and one doesn't. It's not just about Ogier's salary. Ogier wants strong car development and Wilson couldn't do another year like this.
    Car-wise, why not ? The new Fiesta has been fast, strong and reliable AND this after the shortest production and testing in 2016.

    Hyundai had more money then and now and still havent beaten the Ford.

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    Hyundai wants to win no matter what the cost. That’s obvious after signing Mikkelsen and having 4 cars runnning. Budget does not seem a concern for them.

    I think next year teams will be up another notch hence why Ford needs a bigger budget.

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