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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Whichever factory team gets Ogier (assuming he doesnt retire) will have a huge advantage so the supposed big team competition wont be that great.

    If a four-cars rule comes in it will just be the factory teams wanting to get back at M-Sport for embarrassing them this season.
    You underestimate what Tanak at Toyota and Neuville at Hyundai could do against Seb in an under strength c3. Even this year Neuville would've won the title had he not been an idiot in the first two events. Jari, Meeke, Mikkelsen will also have something to say, and that's before we mention Lappi and Paddon etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Whichever factory team gets Ogier (assuming he doesnt retire) will have a huge advantage so the supposed big team competition wont be that great.
    I'm glad you finally got it.

    a four-cars rule comes in it will just be the factory teams wanting to get back at M-Sport for embarrassing them this season.
    Paranoia already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jparker View Post
    I'm glad you finally got it.
    Paranoia already?
    They were the weakest TEAM at the start of 2017 even with Ogier. And they produced and tested their car last.

    Paranoia ? Ask yourself who wants 4-car teams and why ?

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    Maybe someone with a bit of time on their hands (or who can be bothered) could work out what the manu champ would look like this year if you could score (and so block) points with three cars instead of two. Would Hyundai actually be beating M-Sport? I doubt it.

    I think if the rule came in the fans would certainly benefit. More seats, more cars on stages. Bigger competition. It's important for the teams involved but personally I couldn't care less about the manufacturers title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    They were the weakest TEAM at the start of 2017 even with Ogier. And they produced and tested their car last.

    Paranoia ? Ask yourself who wants 4-car teams and why ?

    are you kidding me? how? i want a long explanation please.


    To be honest my wish was that Ford would come back or some major sponsor would help Wilson and he could retain the same line-up. Tänak is getting on really well with Ogier and as you see M-sport is kicking everyones ass this season. Evans has also progressed and shows great speed. and i think they would have been even better next season.


    But now it seems they will have a hard time next year.
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    I think everyone would be gutted to see M-Sport get cleaned out. Just as much as everyone was so thrilled for them last year to get Ogier. They were too good - everyone noticed

    I guess you can compare it to football. You develop players (like Tanak) and then without the financial support they go to a bigger club. At least in football you get a transfer fee. Wouldn't surprise me if Malcolm has something written into his deal with Ott (he saved his career multiple times and developed him) but that's pure speculation from me.

    If nothing else at least this finally gives Malcolm some leverage with Ford. No way he can guarantee any form of success next year without his two top guys.
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    4 cars rule with existing point system will make retirement+rally2 more significant than currently is, hence better competition.

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    I hate the current manufacturers points scoring system

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    What exactly is the proposal with the 4 car rule. Best 2 out of the 4 score, or still nominations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS View Post
    What exactly is the proposal with the 4 car rule. Best 2 out of the 4 score, or still nominations?
    Best 3 from 4 score is what I saw written in Motorsport News last week.
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