Page 8 of 9 FirstFirst ... 6789 LastLast
Results 71 to 80 of 90

Thread: 2017 Bahrain GP

  1. #71
    Senior Member Rollo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2001
    Location
    Sep 1666
    Posts
    10,447
    Like
    14
    Liked 175 Times in 133 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by truefan72 View Post
    Mclaren are just an embarrassment
    I think that the McLaren is fine, it's the Honda engines which are rubbish. Honda has reverted to being Honda. They are a company of tinkerers. We saw this when Button last drove for them.
    The Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!

  2. #72
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    1,393
    Like
    39
    Liked 121 Times in 96 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Rollo View Post
    I think that the McLaren is fine, it's the Honda engines which are rubbish. Honda has reverted to being Honda. They are a company of tinkerers. We saw this when Button last drove for them.

    In the opinion of many automotive journalists, Honda is not just a company run by the tinkering engineers, but it's also the company composed of the most stubborn ones. These people religiously believe that their way is the right way, and they keep on doing things their way, always. Another problem is that according to many, Honda lost its way some time in the early 00s. They really should have moved their F1 engine building business into UK. At this point, Honda's involvement in F1 is looking just very bad. Their current return into F1 is looking worse than Porsche's in 1991. How could such great automotive companies go so wrong..

  3. #73
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    1,393
    Like
    39
    Liked 121 Times in 96 Posts

    So which drivers did not screw up?

    Here is the question for the experts: which drivers did not screw up something and run a great race from beginning to the end?

  4. #74
    Senior Member steveaki13's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Chelmsford, Essex, United Kingdom
    Posts
    10,318
    Like
    663
    Liked 574 Times in 451 Posts
    Felipe baby?

    Sent from my GT-I9301I using Tapatalk
    Its not crashing it's drifting with style

  5. #75
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Cowtown, Canada
    Posts
    13,783
    Like
    23
    Liked 70 Times in 56 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Koz View Post
    Because Bottas was struggling with them. Based on the times he was doing, it was probably the right call..
    My understanding is that the only super-softs he had remaining was a used set.
    “If everything's under control, you're going too slow.” Mario Andretti

  6. #76
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Gran Canaria
    Posts
    1,292
    Like
    225
    Liked 129 Times in 92 Posts
    From what I read, Sky is reporting that Alonso didn't retire the car due to a genuine reliability problem, but that it was a protest against the team for giving him a dog unable to finish in the points.

    As much as I am aware that he is a prima donna, this sounds a bit too hard to be real. But then again, I wonder why Sky would report this without some kind of evidence.

  7. #77
    Senior Member Duncan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Oregon, US
    Posts
    213
    Like
    240
    Liked 47 Times in 39 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by N4D13 View Post
    From what I read, Sky is reporting that Alonso didn't retire the car due to a genuine reliability problem, but that it was a protest against the team for giving him a dog unable to finish in the points.

    As much as I am aware that he is a prima donna, this sounds a bit too hard to be real. But then again, I wonder why Sky would report this without some kind of evidence.
    I can't say I could blame him if he did something like that, but it didn't look to me like that's what happened. He was in 12th, and then appeared to suddenly lose ground dramatically, dropping to 14th in the space of a few corners. Of course, he could have just decided "screw it, I'm done" and backed off, but I wouldn't have thought he would do that so close to the end while in 12th, with the possibility of other retirements ahead of him.

    He didn't have a *total* engine failure; rather there was a sudden and non-catastrophic drop in power, and maybe he could have limped to the end rather than pulling in to the garage. Maybe somebody is reporting on that?

  8. Likes: N4D13 (18th April 2017)
  9. #78
    Senior Member journeyman racer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    816
    Like
    193
    Liked 78 Times in 62 Posts
    Racing tends to be static. A lot of the drivers performance is dictated by their cars and whatever problems they have. Also by taking advantage of others misfortune. There's not many opportunities for the driver to influence the result.

    So with that in mind. For someone unproven like Bottas. I thought his start and entry into the first corner, and first few laps, was of sufficient authority that it gives an indication he could've done more without any tyre issues. The start and first corner entry was a moment where he could falter if he wasn't up to it.

  10. #79
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Posts
    7,388
    Like
    21
    Liked 280 Times in 234 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by N4D13 View Post
    From what I read, Sky is reporting that Alonso didn't retire the car due to a genuine reliability problem, but that it was a protest against the team for giving him a dog unable to finish in the points.

    As much as I am aware that he is a prima donna, this sounds a bit too hard to be real. But then again, I wonder why Sky would report this without some kind of evidence.
    During the broadcast , they mentioned that they had heard reports that some Spanish friends of Zo had said that he would retire on the last lap as a protest if there was no way to get points .
    I understand he has denied doing so .

    Of course , given that they are so far behind , and were set to test at the track the next day , it would have been a good decision to have retired because having it in the garage for the trophy ceremonies instead of out there for the duration , giving the mechanics far more time to work .
    Smart move , really , even if the only "problem" he encountered was being under-powered .

  11. #80
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    2,578
    Like
    26
    Liked 180 Times in 140 Posts
    The un-edited radio transcript reveals all:
    Alonso: Engine problem, I am retiring the car
    McLaren: What's the engine problem Fernando?
    Alonso: The problem is it has a big H on the top

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •