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    Quote Originally Posted by EightGear View Post
    Neuville seems to whine more and more lately, today he also complained about being 'unlucky' due to the rain.
    I've noticed it is a mark of a champion (I don't have a memory of Loeb doing this but I might have been too young to remember).

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    I think he was yesterday. .
    he wasn't


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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    so you see him being fast at this rally?
    No - he's not 'fast' but he's fourth. Mostly because the percentages are that there is a pace for an event that is optimum - not necessarily the fastest possible. Ogier is supreme at finding that optimum pace for finishing when others retire. What if Neuville and Tanak provoke each other into errors tomorrow.
    Kris Meeke got fired -PSG so terrified they quit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mintexmemory View Post
    No - he's not 'fast' but he's fourth. Mostly because the percentages are that there is a pace for an event that is optimum - not necessarily the fastest possible. Ogier is supreme at finding that optimum pace for finishing when others retire. What if Neuville and Tanak provoke each other into errors tomorrow.
    nobody said that he cant manage better from other drivers his pace at given circumstances
    .At this rally he is slow.It happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post
    I've noticed it is a mark of a champion (I don't have a memory of Loeb doing this but I might have been too young to remember).
    plenty of champions without moaning.Loeb one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii View Post
    he wasn't
    Oh, I didn't know You mean "fast" as being down the starting order. My mistake, I'm sorry.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post
    Massively impressive of Tänak to not lose more time than that.
    Yes, didn't Ostberg retire when that happened to him in Sweden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    Oh, I didn't know You mean "fast" as being down the starting order. My mistake, I'm sorry.
    being fast doesn't have different meanings.Except fanboys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS View Post
    Yes, didn't Ostberg retire when that happened to him in Sweden?
    yeah he did, he is talking about it here today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3Yh...=122.858065839

    Tänak saying they tried to compensate it with taking some spoilers off from the front and changing ride heights like Mads is saying but Järveoja said that still on every jump they felt the cars wants to flip
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    Quote Originally Posted by KKS View Post
    Missed this before... Seems like clutch or gearbox. Engine is definitely running.

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