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    I am still puzzled by the starting order for PS (Breen-Hanninen-Mikkelsen-Latvala(rally2)-Evans). Double-checking in Portugal it was (Paddon (rally2) - Meeke (rally 2) - Al Quasimi - Lefebvre ... ).

    Just can't find any explanation and nobody seems to care. Latvala jumped Tanak in the standings due to the powerstage win. I'd say he probably wouldn't be able to win it from first place on the road.

    If his starting position was correct, then why was it different in Portugal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    I am still puzzled by the starting order for PS (Breen-Hanninen-Mikkelsen-Latvala(rally2)-Evans). Double-checking in Portugal it was (Paddon (rally2) - Meeke (rally 2) - Al Quasimi - Lefebvre ... ).

    Just can't find any explanation and nobody seems to care. Latvala jumped Tanak in the standings due to the powerstage win. I'd say he probably wouldn't be able to win it from first place on the road.

    If his starting position was correct, then why was it different in Portugal.
    I don't see the mistake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    I am still puzzled by the starting order for PS (Breen-Hanninen-Mikkelsen-Latvala(rally2)-Evans). Double-checking in Portugal it was (Paddon (rally2) - Meeke (rally 2) - Al Quasimi - Lefebvre ... ).

    Just can't find any explanation and nobody seems to care. Latvala jumped Tanak in the standings due to the powerstage win. I'd say he probably wouldn't be able to win it from first place on the road.

    If his starting position was correct, then why was it different in Portugal.
    There is no rule for power stage starting order. Everything is on promoter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve.mandzij View Post
    Is Tidemand actually good? Even though he's won four events he's never faced too stiff of a competition. With Veiby now beating him and Mikkelsen having nearly won in Portugal I slightly doubt how good he really is.

    Also, moving on to JWRC, how good is Solans really? Hats off to him for winning all events so far, but could it be that his competition isn't very stiff at all?

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    Well he isn't slow by wrc2 standards. He is beaten on individual events by some drivers like for instance Kopecky and Mikkelsen but he is consistently faster than Camili who competed in the WRC. He is very consistent, Finland last year being an exception.

    These things are also hard to tell because Kopecky is a tarmac specialist and a pretty good gravel driver, Mikkelsen is definitely a world class driver and the national round he did in Cz there were many national drivers with experience of the conditions and the event.

    In my opinion he has at best the chance to become another Sordo. One who bags points for the team but never really does anything heroic. At worst, another back of the pack finisher at every event.

    ...But you never know with these kind of things. No one really expected Breen to be quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Rallying is firstly about finishing, secondly about speed.
    Straight out of the Mathew Wilson School of Rallying handbook. Much prefer Ott Tanak's philosophy - "To win you have to drive hard".
    I'm with Ott.

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    I always remember the old saying... to finish first, first you have to finish.

    Being Finnish often seems to help too.

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    "Some famous quote from some famous person"

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    I just watched Neuville onboard from SS21 when sees this corner 20 m ahead his reaction is "Ou la-la".
    Where you watched it?

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    Interesting that Ogier can behave like this and only get a fine:

    http://www.rajdpolski.pl/pliki/zawod...ision_no_2.pdf

    Didn't people also mention him speeding between stages at some point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post

    ...But you never know with these kind of things. No one really expected Breen to be quick.
    Wrong, Breen's win in the Academy followed by his S2000 WRC championship showed he had speed. I and many Irish and British fans could see how good he is. The 208 year gave some people the wrong impression. However if you had seen Breen live then it was always clear he was quick.
    I remember some people saying the same about Paddon and Tanak 3 years ago.
    Kris Meeke got fired -PSG so terrified they quit!

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