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    That's mostly just stating facts

    To add two more: Breen has very little experience in Germany. Meeke has never finished at a decent place in germany (2x crash, 1 technical from 6th place).

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    Now to speculation:

    Neuville will be faster than Ogier in vineyards, Ogier faster on Panzerplatte. In total Neuville prbly first.
    Sordo 3rd fighting with Latvala, if it's wet Latvala will even challenge the first 2.
    I'd place Tanak right behind these 4, likely the top citroens will be around this pace if it doesn't rain.
    Lappi and Evans here, Paddon and Hanninen last. Kremer is not even worth mentioning.

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    Kopecky should be fastest on speed by far but he tends to catch punctures in WRC a lot. Both Camilli and Tidemand were faster than Sunninen on tarmac recently, same should be Østberg. So if the others don't have punctures/crashes Sunninen could end even 5th.

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    This is what people that make money on speculating say:

    For win:
    Ogier 3.75
    Neuville 4.00

    Latvala, Sordo 6.25

    Meeke, Mikkelsen, Tanak 9.00

    Lappi 15.00
    Breen 25.00
    Evans 40.00
    Hänninen, Paddon 85.00

    Basically the same what I wrote before, except favoring Ogier over Neuville.

    WRC2:
    Kopecký 3.25
    Suninen 3.85
    Camilli 4.05
    Tidemand 4.05
    (Østberg not listed)
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    The service park will be a mess if it rains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommeke_B View Post
    The service park will be a mess if it rains.
    Looks lot worse than 2-weeks ago in Jyväskylä, gravel rally has tarmac service park, but tarmac rally not even gravel...
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    Here service park on dirt is usually followed by a shitstorm towards the organizers even on amateur events.
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    And for sure rain is coming....

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    As soon as Bostalsee was announced I remember people saying it was bad for the service park. Let's see. I haven't dared look at the rally forecast yet...


    By the way does anyone have any gravel crew info for Germany?
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    I'm trying to plan my itinerary for Saturday. Can someone please advise which is better, Friesen or Römerstrasse, from an access and spectator point of view?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommeke_B View Post
    The service park will be a mess if it rains.
    Forecast has showed some rain for the duration of the event so it will most likely be a mud fest in service park. And it have rained quite a bit before the event too.
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    Withdrawal Ostberg?

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