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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    This is what people that make money on speculating say:

    For win:
    Ogier 3.75
    Neuville 4.00

    Latvala, Sordo 6.25

    Meeke, Mikkelsen, Tanak 9.00

    Lappi 15.00
    Breen 25.00
    Evans 40.00
    Hänninen, Paddon 85.00

    Basically the same what I wrote before, except favoring Ogier over Neuville.

    WRC2:
    Kopecký 3.25
    Suninen 3.85
    Camilli 4.05
    Tidemand 4.05
    (Østberg not listed)
    Who are these people so sure that Lappi will be faster than Paddon, who came 5th in Deutschland last year? And for that matter, Lappi over Breen and Evans? He wins in Finland and now he's a tarmac ace?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kirungi okwogera View Post
    Who are these people so sure that Lappi will be faster than Paddon, who came 5th in Deutschland last year? And for that matter, Lappi over Breen and Evans? He wins in Finland and now he's a tarmac ace?
    Lappi won WRC2 in Deutchland last year, that's something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnttiL View Post
    Lappi won WRC2 in Deutchland last year, that's something...
    Kind of... but not much. He beat Jan Kopecky, on tarmac that isn't nothing, but then what? Jose Suarez, Armin Kremer, Yoann Bonato?

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    thats doesnt mean much...Tänak won in PWRC class back in the day too... and looking back at the results you have to admit the competition wasnt great with only Kopecky being real contender who had a puncture already on the second stage, after first day Lappi was second, 28 secs behind Kremer.


    im not saying he wont do good but i wouldnt get my hopes that up.
    Last edited by EstWRC; 12th August 2017 at 18:04.
    Tänak: "Better than I expected. Lots of sideways - and we enjoy that."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kirungi okwogera View Post
    Who are these people so sure that Lappi will be faster than Paddon, who came 5th in Deutschland last year? And for that matter, Lappi over Breen and Evans? He wins in Finland and now he's a tarmac ace?
    The odds are from onebet. Posted them just for fun cause as I wrote they make money on speculation.

    Paddon was 5th last year yes, second last WRC only slower one was Østberg, he was also 3 mins behind everyone else, based on this list I'd give him some 1:50. I agree Lappi might be slightly over-estimated in that list, something like 1:25 is what he would get from me.

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    We must also consider that Paddon hasn't even finished many events this year while Lappi has only had one retirement out of four rallies and one win.

    And don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting a podium from Lappi, it's his first tarmac event on a WRC car.

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    Can anybody recommend some places to see some cuts and fast slidings?

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    Same as above. First time at rally Germany. Any good reccomendations for a first time spectator. Also thinking of skipping Sunday to give the wife a day for her haha. Any good places to visit near the rally. Willing to drive 2-3 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerx1979 View Post
    Same as above. First time at rally Germany. Any good reccomendations for a first time spectator. Also thinking of skipping Sunday to give the wife a day for her haha. Any good places to visit near the rally. Willing to drive 2-3 hours.
    Can´t help you with spectator points as I didn´t attend the rally for ages now. But if you look for places your wife may also like there are many possibilities: bigger cities like Heidelberg or Metz, smaller cities like Idar-Oberstein or Bernkastel-Kues, the Alsace region...

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