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    https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...y-route-boring

    LoL, can't say I disagree...very short also...perhaps the organizers are afraid of the new cars so they make the rallies shorter this year...but back to the matter in hand, shame they took out so much of the vineyards stages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    WRC crews say new Rally Germany route 'really boring'

    The revised Rally Germany route has been labelled "dull" and "boring" by World Rally Championship crews.

    The event was moved south after Saarbrucken outbid the rally's traditional host city Trier, but the move has forced revisions to the route that have proved unpopular.

    Rally Germany retains its format of using three distinct road types in the vineyards, plus the Baumholder military roads and the Saarland country lanes.

    It is the country lane sections that have caused disquiet.

    "They have changed the whole nature of this event," said one leading WRC driver.

    "It was really one of the greats before, but this time it's really boring.

    "It's just straight all of the time, straight and then a nearly straight corner.

    "What's the point in this? It's, for me, quite dull."

    Hayden Paddon's co-driver Seb Marshall reckons the rally will be decided after the second run of the Baumholder stages on Saturday given the nature of the rest of the route.

    "We have the vineyards on Friday, and, love them or loathe them, they have a real character to them," said Marshall.

    "On Saturday, obviously it's Panzerplatte and we all know what a huge challenge that is.

    "But the stages after that on Saturday and Sunday are all quite quick; certainly it's going to be hard to make a lot of time in those stages.

    "The difference could come from the car, with a strong engine and good aero working really well - then it comes down to whose car sticks the best and gives enough confidence to keep the speed through the corners with a 'flat maybe' attached to them."



    Citroen driver Craig Breen's main concern was with the six-mile Wadern-Weiskirchen superspecial, used three three times on Friday.

    "I understand why the organisers have included the stage, it makes sense to bring the people in, but we're doing a couple of laps of this stage and we're doing it three times during the day," Breen told Autosport.

    "In between us going in there, the organisers are going to be doing VIP runs on that road - by the time it's finished there could have been as many as 600 cars passing.

    "If it rains, it'll be a nightmare - you can cut so, so much."

    Rain is forecast for the opening day on Friday and Breen said wet weather will make a real difference.

    "It would give [Thierry] Neuville a real advantage, a huge advantage [for running first on the road," he said.

    "There's so much scope to cut corners, it'll be a real mess the further down the field you go.

    "It's fair to say it's not the best route this time around.

    "Once we get away from the vineyards and Baumholder and into the country roads, it's not so interesting.

    "We've lost a lot of character of the rally."


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    This is how they fixed the muddy SP:

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    Quote Originally Posted by KKS View Post
    I'm about road position at rally. Two car before him didn't get road tricky as hell, why he should practicing "dirty" runs from the beginning?
    It was only a guess, we dont know unless he tells us. Maybe he was just late out of service so behind the other cars.

    But as the road order changes after Friday the roads could well be very dirty for the leaders on Sat & Sun...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    This is how they fixed the muddy SP:
    Well, they don't muck around (insert stereotype German efficiency comment). Looks like more than a truckload or two of gravel. Wonder if they have to scrape it all off afterwards...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli View Post
    https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...y-route-boring

    LoL, can't say I disagree...very short also...perhaps the organizers are afraid of the new cars so they make the rallies shorter this year...but back to the matter in hand, shame they took out so much of the vineyards stages.
    Yes, some truth in there. The Saarland country lanes look really boring indeed. It could be almost everywhere in Europe: in France, Belgium, Denmark, Poland... Nothing unique which can create spectacular pictures. But maybe "@world", Janus Ree etc. are able to suprise us . I don't want to critise the organizers before the actual rally takes place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    You trying to imply that it's a special "faster" car? For real?

    Mikkelsen won the shakedown in Germany last year, being the fastest in every run in same car as Ogier and Latvala. His result in the first run is no big surprise, specially considering he ran it as 3rd on the road.
    Hopefully the conditions arent too bad and we can see Andreas fight at the front here for Citroen. He's got the experience and form in Germany to fight for a podium or higher, but if it rains again that C3 could quickly become a nightmare

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