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Thread: Goodbye Manor

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    It seems very sad , indeed , when one considers all the talk of F1 morphing into a friendlier place for teams and promoters alike , that Manor has fallen from the grid .
    The former owner wanting to keep some equity must have had something to do with what he saw as the future for the series .
    That fact , apparently , was what scuttled the attempts to save the team , according to Saward .

    I guess you can't blame the guy , if he had been convinced he could actually have made a few bucks as an owner , and arrived only to find a big pit into which he could throw his money .
    And , then , to have the series sold , with coming promise of possible financial relief , and be forced to sign it all away at a hard loss ?

    I can imagine his mindset , wanting to keep a piece .

    Hopefully , losing them will inspire the new lease holders to fix this .
    Something must be wrong when the loss of one point can kill a team .
    It should scare the crap out of everyone .
    I hope it does .

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    Sad to see them go. Sad that F1 is almost impossible for smaller teams to enter
    Its not crashing it's drifting with style

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    MEP's have voted for an enquiry into F1 due to how the funds are unfairly distributed between the teams.

    What does this actually mean? Can they enforce a change?

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    Junior Member Owain's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by zako85 View Post
    The next problem is that F1 has too many races in too many continents. In my opinion, 20 races a year is way too much not only for the competitors but even fans. The teams sometimes need to rush their staff and equipment across continents within a matter of days, and when they arrive they have to pay a whole lot of fees to compete in the races.
    Indeed, especially as many of those races are in countries with no history of motorsport, no fan base, no automotive industry, no history of providing drivers, and - frankly - no right to be in F1 other than that they paid for the kudos of having a race. This trend of the 2000s drove me nuts, and is part of the reason my 30-year passion for F1 has declined in recent years. I even gave up watching the 2015 season several races from the end (shock-horror!).

    How many countries with a long F1 heritage have lost their races in order to make way for Tilke tracks with empty grandstands? Argentina, Holland, Portugal, South Africa, San Marino ... it's nice to see Mexico back, though.

    As for the demise of the 2010 teams, there was a lot of talk at the time about the Brabham name coming back, as well as Lotus. I was strongly in favour of this, but considering that they've all folded (with the Lotus name being tossed around in a way that it never deserved), I'm quite glad they didn't after all.
    Last edited by Owain; 25th February 2017 at 11:22.

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