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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    Meekes SS7 onboard seems like a normal crash. Lost it a bit under braking on tarmac and hit a concrete block on the side. Time in 8:00.
    Meeke, ever the disappointment

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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post
    What are you on about?




    Time loss from following Latvala naturally.
    .... and about Tanak's time loss? I'm waiting for Tanak's compensation time. Don't care much about Neuville's.
    Last edited by stefanvv; 20th May 2017 at 00:04.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Doesn't suit me as an M-Sport supporter but I agree with Neuville's time correction. It may not be a consistent decision but it was a fair one as he lost a lot of time through no fault of his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    .... and about Tanak's time loss? I'm waiting for Tanak's compensation time. Don't care much about Neuville's.
    Did he appeal? Perhaps the decision is still to come.

    I am sure they have access to the onboards and can do some quick calculations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post
    What are you on about?
    His mechanics "forgot" to install his mirrors after a service. If you have the capability of critical thinking you know that they just left them off to gain time for repairs (since missing to put mirros on the car for them is like you forgetting to put pants on in the morning). He just got a fine, other people get disqualified for far smaller infringements. And now he goes crying about getting stuck in someone else's dust. Hell that happens almost every rally and they just live with it. They're playing shady games and we are not entitled to find it disgraceful?

    It's not very sportsman-like, is it now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post
    Did he appeal? Perhaps the decision is still to come.

    I am sure they have access to the onboards and can do some quick calculations.
    Appeal or not, the sport should fair.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    Latvala DID pull over Neuville to pass him. No excuses for the latter. I really start to NOT like the Hyundai team.

    BTW: What's the excuse for Neuvile between split 1 & 2 when losing ~5 seconds to Ogier when he had ALREADY passed Latvala before 1st split?
    Latvala asked the team to tell him when Neuville was close but never heard anything.
    Neuville passed him after the 1st split. Split 2 and 3 you mean i guess? Could be stress maybe, damage to the car after nearly going off 3 times...?
    The corrected time was ok since he was 2 up on Ogier, lost 5 and got a time 5 behind. Should have been 2 sec better really.
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    Remember Ogier got some time back in GB a few years ago for same reason. What will be tommorows startlist ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watson View Post
    His mechanics "forgot" to install his mirrors after a service. If you have the capability of critical thinking you know that they just left them off to gain time for repairs (since missing to put mirros on the car for them is like you forgetting to put pants on in the morning). He just got a fine, other people get disqualified for far smaller infringements. And now he goes crying about getting stuck in someone else's dust. Hell that happens almost every rally and they just live with it. They're playing shady games and we are not entitled to find it disgraceful?

    It's not very sportsman-like, is it now?
    That's just a ridiculous conspiracy theory that doesn't even make sense if you lack it.

    Putting on a mirror takes about as much time as putting your pants on in the morning.

    ...So no, I do believe they did forget it.

    And he was more than stuck in his dust. He was slowed down and had to pass him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv View Post
    Appeal or not, the sport should fair.
    Like all organizations, you need to appeal if you want something done.

    The state does not issue you a passport if you don't ask for one...

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